Ex Refusing To Tell New Address

[feebee102]

Quick question
My son and his partner of 5 years split up 2 years ago. He moved back home with me.
His ex lived in the next town and we where always looking after my 4 year old grandson so she could work during the week and also have him every weekend. They even work at the same place.
She recently went away for a week and we had my grandson so she could do this, although her family lived nearer to her she asked if we could do it.
She got a new boyfriend about 3 months ago and moved in with him 2 months ago. No problem there except she refuses to give my son the address and when we pick him up we have to meet her at the side of the road away from where she now lives.
She has moved 30 miles away.
She always dropped him off on a Friday and we took him back on a Sunday as it was better for my son as Sunday is the one day he doesn’t work.
All of a sudden it’s that we have to pick him up on a Friday. She gives us a specific time to pick him up and if there is a difference of 10 minutes either way she kicks off, yet she can be 2hrs late picking him up and her and her new boyfriend just laugh in my sons face.
Her new partner won’t acknowledge my son even though my son has tried to say hello to him etc.
My son is now thinking of getting solicitors involved as she is totally unapproachable.
Does he have the right to know where his son is living.
Can I add there is no restraining orders against him or anything. Everything was amicable until this new chap came along
Many thanks

[feebee102]

barry1010 yes she’s just spiteful and always has been

[barry1010]

feebee, is your son's name on the birth certificate? Were they married?

[bobbinwales]

I thinkits worth seeing a solicitor to see what his rights are on lots of things like access or away in the child's upbringing. Is your son happy with occasional meeting' s...orwoukshe want more
... maybe even custody

[feebee102]

barry1010 sons name on birth certificate but they weren’t married. My son would love full custody

[barry1010]

At least your son has automatic parental responsibility which gives him rights.

[pixie374]

This is in Law, not "opinions". He has the right to know where the child lives, if he has a Custody order. Otherwise, not.
There is no reason for him to turn up unannounced, or even needed for emergency services.
Most of the OP shouldn't be here, those are different issues.

[barry1010]

"Does a father have the right to know where his child lives in the UK?
If a father has parental responsibility (explained above) he has the same rights to that of the mother, and has the right to know where their child is living. This, however, may change if it conflicts with the child’s best interests. For instance, an abusive father may lose their right to know where the child is living.

The courts expect parents to behave reasonably and communicate openly with each other about things like this, although of course this may not always be possible. If you are being denied information about where you child is living you can apply to the court for a specific issue order."
https://www.family-lawfirm.co.uk/blog/a-fathers-rights-to-see-his-children/

[pixie374]

//Do I have a right to know where my child lives UK?
Do I have the right to know where my child is during visitation? Yes — if you have a custody order specifying that parents must disclose the child's whereabouts during their visitation time. It's a violation of the order if a parent refuses to reveal the child's location.//

[barry1010]

pixie, the child doesn't live with the father but spend the weekends and some other times with him. He has parental responsibility.
He needs to know where his child lives, just as the mother needs to know where the child is staying when he is with his father.

[pixie374]

Barry, that's your opinion, not the law... as in your own link.

[pixie374]

It's the child that has the "rights"... in theory. The parents are "responsible" and their rights vary.

[barry1010]

My link says the father has the right to know where his child lives. That right is denied if the court is satisfied there is good reason such as abuse.

[pixie374]

If he goes to court...

[barry1010]

What would happen if the child needed to be taken home to his mother for any reason and his father or grandparents couldn't contact her?

[barry1010]

It would go to court to prevent him knowing, the assumption is that he should know. He can apply to the court to find out where he lives. His mother would have to give a very good reason for refusing. As she lets the child stay with his father then she could hardly claim that he abuses his son.

[pixie374]

//Do I have to disclose my address to my ex UK?
Rule 29.1 of the Family Procedure Rules (FPR) deals with non-disclosure of address. It provides that a party is not required to reveal, among other things, their home address or other contact details unless the court directs otherwise.//

Barry, you are still asking about opinions. This is in Law...

My opinion to your question, is the same as any other situation- if you can't contact a child's parent, keep them safe until you can. Irrelevant to the question though.

[pixie374]

18:36, no, it would go to court, so he can find out. There is no indication here this has happened.