Road rules3 mins ago
Bus Stop fine?
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Was dropping my wife off at the train station this morning. Without think I stopped and dropped her off at one of those long bus top/lanes/ It wasnt your usual bus lane (red with the words "bus lane"), it was not coloured, quite long and said Bus Stop.
I stopped for a maximum of 7 or 8 seconds. When I drove off I thought "damn!" , I must have got a ticket.
Went back during this morning whern it was light and looked at the road signed. there was one exactly like this one
http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/buslane2_tcm21-2 0543.jpg
But instead of having times it said "at any time".
There is a CCTV camera which points just off where I had stopped. will I get a fine???
Now there is a sign like this further up the road which has the times "7am - 10", same sign as this and it is a proper red bus lane, and I know that you can drive in the lane after 10am.
I stopped for a maximum of 7 or 8 seconds. When I drove off I thought "damn!" , I must have got a ticket.
Went back during this morning whern it was light and looked at the road signed. there was one exactly like this one
http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/buslane2_tcm21-2 0543.jpg
But instead of having times it said "at any time".
There is a CCTV camera which points just off where I had stopped. will I get a fine???
Now there is a sign like this further up the road which has the times "7am - 10", same sign as this and it is a proper red bus lane, and I know that you can drive in the lane after 10am.
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I'd doubt it - they could see you entered it to drop off and then drove straight out again - it's not like you were queue jumping or driving down it for a mile. If you didn't hold anything up - I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's only when they are camera activated bus lanes that the ticket is usually automatic.
Spaced.
If the sign displayed was the one you posted, then you were in a Bus Lane and not at a bus stop. The fact that you stopped is irrelevant, you should not have been there at all. If you failed to notice you had entered a bus lane then you were driving without due care and attention. The fact that you re-visited the area and still did not understand what you had done is worrying. I suggest you purchase a copy of the Highway Code. It is only �1.99 and a lot cheaper than a fine.
If the sign displayed was the one you posted, then you were in a Bus Lane and not at a bus stop. The fact that you stopped is irrelevant, you should not have been there at all. If you failed to notice you had entered a bus lane then you were driving without due care and attention. The fact that you re-visited the area and still did not understand what you had done is worrying. I suggest you purchase a copy of the Highway Code. It is only �1.99 and a lot cheaper than a fine.
Still think it comes under the rules of dropping off passengers and if you entered it dropped off and went straight back out - I'd argue that you didn't use the bus lane for anything else other than dropping off. We have one were we live and no gives a damn about it - it's not policed, camera covered and I'm sure if you just entered and dropped off no-one could give a monkeys about it !!
Not necessarily Gromit - local by-laws may allow you to set down and pick -up. A bit like double yellows - no parking but sometimes allow you to drop off/pick-up. What do you do Stop in the middle of the road to let your passenger out - no you find a safe place to let them out. If the bus lane is empty and it's not a red lane. I know taxis can :
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/pco/downloads/44_06.pdf
These following links clearly state that it differs between local by laws :
http://www.brent.gov.uk/faqs.nsf/69bead3e83f83 171802568e300703468/2c4a94e06d2aac0280256f3800 49cc45!OpenDocument
This Brent one says yes you can
whilst this Cambridge one says no you can't.
Quote from Google Search
"Bus lanes You must not drive or stop in a bus lane during its period of operation. ... except for as long as necessary to set down or pick up passengers. ...
www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=5847056 - Similar pages
So there you are - check your local by law.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/pco/downloads/44_06.pdf
These following links clearly state that it differs between local by laws :
http://www.brent.gov.uk/faqs.nsf/69bead3e83f83 171802568e300703468/2c4a94e06d2aac0280256f3800 49cc45!OpenDocument
This Brent one says yes you can
whilst this Cambridge one says no you can't.
Quote from Google Search
"Bus lanes You must not drive or stop in a bus lane during its period of operation. ... except for as long as necessary to set down or pick up passengers. ...
www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=5847056 - Similar pages
So there you are - check your local by law.
Sorry that last one - In Cambridge you can but here at this one in Lancashire you can't set down/pick-up
http://www.parkwise.org.uk/howtopark/index.htm l
http://www.parkwise.org.uk/howtopark/index.htm l
almcd007
Although called a Bus Lane it is quite clear to see from the signage that Taxis and cyclists can use the Lane as well.
Your Brent example is contradicted by another answer on the Brent site...
Who can use a bus lane?
The only vehicles that can use a bus lane are buses, taxis and pedal cycles. However, some bus lanes allow motor cyclists to use the lane, but the motorist will need to refer to the blue sign at the location to be sure.
The other example you use clearly refers to Taxis. In short, in answer to spaced original question, no he cannot drop off his wife because he should not be in the Bus Lane in the first place..
The general rule is do not use them. The fine is �100 (�50 if paid within 28 days).
Although called a Bus Lane it is quite clear to see from the signage that Taxis and cyclists can use the Lane as well.
Your Brent example is contradicted by another answer on the Brent site...
Who can use a bus lane?
The only vehicles that can use a bus lane are buses, taxis and pedal cycles. However, some bus lanes allow motor cyclists to use the lane, but the motorist will need to refer to the blue sign at the location to be sure.
The other example you use clearly refers to Taxis. In short, in answer to spaced original question, no he cannot drop off his wife because he should not be in the Bus Lane in the first place..
The general rule is do not use them. The fine is �100 (�50 if paid within 28 days).
"Can I stop in a bus lane to pick someone up?
Yes you can stop to pick up or set down passengers in a bus lane. However, you cannot park whilst you go and knock on somebody�s door to collect them. A maximum time limit of 2 minutes is allowed under these circumstances "
Thats what the Brent one says.
Obviously a Bus Lane is a Lane for buses and other allowed users depicted on the appropriate sign. I'm not saying that Spaced is right in using the lane in the way he did - there might be a better place to drop the wife off. (I'd personally use a cliff for my wife !) Spaced didn't use the Lane in the way that he drove along it instead of the proper carriageway. He pulled up from the main road, accross the bus lane, at the side of the road, dropped the wife off and drove back out. This is clearly allowed in Brent and Cambridge. Using a bus lane is driving along the lane instead of using another lane that is available and it is not an emergency.The original Question was - Do you think I'll get a ticket ?
I still say check your local by law Spaced - you may be OK.
Yes you can stop to pick up or set down passengers in a bus lane. However, you cannot park whilst you go and knock on somebody�s door to collect them. A maximum time limit of 2 minutes is allowed under these circumstances "
Thats what the Brent one says.
Obviously a Bus Lane is a Lane for buses and other allowed users depicted on the appropriate sign. I'm not saying that Spaced is right in using the lane in the way he did - there might be a better place to drop the wife off. (I'd personally use a cliff for my wife !) Spaced didn't use the Lane in the way that he drove along it instead of the proper carriageway. He pulled up from the main road, accross the bus lane, at the side of the road, dropped the wife off and drove back out. This is clearly allowed in Brent and Cambridge. Using a bus lane is driving along the lane instead of using another lane that is available and it is not an emergency.The original Question was - Do you think I'll get a ticket ?
I still say check your local by law Spaced - you may be OK.
you try stopping your vehicle safeyly outside wimblendon station, other than in a bus lane at 6.30 in the morning.
Based on society today, i'd rather do that that drive down the rd and drop her off.
oh well, if i get a fine for stopping for 7 seconds i'll just contest it. As a fleet manager I have much experience on blagging fines!
Based on society today, i'd rather do that that drive down the rd and drop her off.
oh well, if i get a fine for stopping for 7 seconds i'll just contest it. As a fleet manager I have much experience on blagging fines!
What the hell are you talking about Toureman?
Do you or I know if it was a camera which takes your picture automatically if you enter or drive in a bus lane - no !! Or a camera as in a CCTV camera where people might just be looking at it for the 7 seconds that Spaced drove into it ?
As for any abuse - I've never abused anyone in this Answer bank. What bet are you talking about ?
Where dod you get the quote from ?
Do you or I know if it was a camera which takes your picture automatically if you enter or drive in a bus lane - no !! Or a camera as in a CCTV camera where people might just be looking at it for the 7 seconds that Spaced drove into it ?
As for any abuse - I've never abused anyone in this Answer bank. What bet are you talking about ?
Where dod you get the quote from ?
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