Who on AB, is driving with no tax and insurance?

[eyeshade]

I don't mean the ones who's tax and insurance have just run out but drivers who make a habit of it. I ask this because our local paper is full of people in court with no tax and insurance or been caught driving whilst banned. So there must be thousands doing it, who are you eh?..

[johnny37]

Essex Police have impounded 4200 vehicles since January for no insurance. Not only is it expensive to get your car back (when its impounded) it will be crushed if you dont pay the fees involved, plus you will be prosecuted fro no insurance. The police know who you are if you are not on the insurance database and it will be flagged if you go through the number plate recognition camera. Of course that assumes the number plate is genuine! ! !

[NORMANTHEDOG]

i never buy tax or insurance,its too dear

[dilligaf]

It is usually the ones who come on here with green names and some sob story about being caught and can not comprehend it's their fault.

[dilligaf]

Sorry Norman. I forgot to mention you.

[gsr600]

I just hope when they crush the vehicles they would also leave there irresponsible owners/drivers inside!
Don't get me started

GSR600

[NORMANTHEDOG]

i cant afford it.

[Myriad2112]

If you can get away with it - good luck to you

[amonty1144]

I have both, if I didn't I'd lose my job.

Too big a risk without, what about compensating the poor sod's family when uninsured driver's wipe them out!

[dilligaf]

Sorry Norman: cant afford it ? Shouldnt go on these expensive Baltic cruises. lol.

[trevHCS]

Remind me not to live where you are eyeshade...! Not the middle of Sheffield is it by any chance - I heard that area had a really bad rep for that.

The slight problem with the insurance database is it's not totally accurate and doesn't work well for those "any driver" policies, although that only applies if you're stopped.

As for mine - guess it's ok as the police in Yorkshire quite often drive past with a camera on the car and assuming it's working they've not bothered yet. There's also on in Lancs on the M6 somewhere near Preston.

[Raleigh]

johnny37
You say that Essex police have impounded 4200 vehicles with no insurance since January. You also mention that this systems can only work if cars have genuine number plates that the automatic cameras can read. So I assume that the hundreds (no exaggeration) of cars I see daily in Essex with number plates that are almost unreadable just get away with it. You would think that if can see these cars so easily a trained police officer would have no trouble stopping them. But I suppose if it does not register on the camera they ignore it.

[flip_flop]

Norm's right - it never ceases to amaze me that people cite affordability as an excuse not to buy insurance or tax.

There is absolutely never any excuse not to have either, if it genuinely is unaffordable then clearly having a car is also unaffordable.

Driving whilst uninsured should carry the same social stigma as driving whilst drunk.

Major Fortesque Fotherington-Smyth may be smidgeon over the drink drive limit following his one pink gin after golf and gets pulled over in his very well insured Jag, and he get a ban, quite rightly, even though he may still be perfectly capable of driving safely.

Meanwhile, scumbag Wayne-Sky gets nicked in his uninsured unmot'd untaxed chavved up Nova - which he will NEVER bother insuring, and gets a few points and �100 fine.

It is all wrong.

Get caught driving uninsured and you should;

1 - automatically lose your licence for a minimum of 12 months.
2 - be given a fine of at least �1000.

All the time a fine for uninsured driving is way way below the cost of an insurance policy there will always be scum bags who don't bother becuase there is no deterrent.

[flip_flop]

and 3 - your car should automically be crushed.

[THECORBYLOON]

...wi the driver in it still.

[tali1]

in my youth i drove for 6 years without insurance - but i looked too sensible and the police never stopped me.
anyway the fine is a lot cheaper than the premium

[dusty1]

I know someone with a german type No plates on his car,
he has been stopped twice and warned that is illegal ( non reflective ) but he says the most he can get fined is �30 so he's not bothered about changing them and is going to carry on using them.
They should up the fines put the car in a pound and charge an exorbident amount to release them back to the owners.
Also most people driving with no insurance tax or M.o.T usually drive older cars and when they get caught they just go and buy another old car and do the same again.

[flip_flop]

Oh come on - he is a plank.