Telling It How It Is

[Khandro]

...... would you not say ?

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/time-to-jump-out-of-the-globalists-pan-of-boiling-water/

[Untitled]

i am not saying he should get another vaccine if he doesn't want it

[naomi24]

//zero scientific evidence//

You want him to wait for that? You wait for it. He values his life. You are being totally irrational, untitled. In fact, to use your word, utterly selfish.

[Untitled]

khandro has concluded that the vaccine increases risk of stroke on the basis of one (1) old man who suffered one principally because that old man happens to be khandro himself

i do indeed think it is wrong of him to insinuate to other people that the vaccine increases stroke risk if that's all he's got

[naomi24]

He believes it caused his stroke and, understandably to anyone who makes the effort to give it a little sensible consideration. he won't have it again. I don't think he give two hoots whether or not you choose to have it. I certainly don't.

[Untitled]

good for you i suppose?

[naomi24]

If that's a question it makes no sense.

[New Judge]

//…if someone feels the vaccine is not right for them personally that is a whole different thing from agitating against vaccines because you personally don’t want to get it

that is what an anti-vaxer is//

Not according to at least one respondent on this very question, it isn’t. I quote:

Q: “When you mention "anti-vaxers", Zacs, do you mean solely those who believe the vaccine is a conspiracy to inject toxin/microchips/truth serum/obedience potion [delete as appropriate]. Or do you also include those who have weighed up the pros and cons and have decided they simply don't want it?”

A: “Yep, everyone who refused to have it (with the exception of those for whom it might have serious medical implications, of course).”

[Khandro]

Actually, I'm 'anti - putting one's hand in boiling water', but if you want to do it, please go ahead.

[Untitled]

sounds like you believe vaccines are dangerous khandro

if you don't want to take that's one thing... but saying things like that is quite another

[Khandro]

Untitled //sounds like you believe vaccines are dangerous khandro//

The vaccines were dangerous for me - end of!

I don't know why you are prolonging your daft argument, are you trying to bore us all to death?

[Untitled]

but you don’t actually know that they were dangerous for you do you….

old men have strokes unfortunately.

i do of course understand your decision not to take another one… but it is irresponsible for you to then go around telling. other people that vaccines cause strokes purely because you happened to have one… that is misinformation… it is very very unlikely to actually be true

[naomi24]

Best ignored, khandro. You won’t get any sense out of him.

[Untitled]

https://www.mlo-online.com/disease/infectious-disease/article/21278704/new-data-shows-covid19-vaccine-does-not-raise-stroke-risk

[Untitled]

From the cedars-sinai press release….

“ We now know that patients who've had a vaccine are not at higher risk of stroke, thanks to a large body of data with millions of patients who have been included,” said Alexis Simpkins, MD, PhD, director of Vascular Neurology Research in the Department of Neurology at Cedars-Sinai and co-author of the editorial and of a related study published by the journal. “You're 200 times less likely—if you compare the numbers—to have had a stroke if you were vaccinated, than a person who was hospitalized with severe COVID-19 and was not vaccinated.”

[Khandro]

Well if Alexis Simpkins, MD, PhD (?), said it, it must be true.

[Untitled]

you might say that she’s…. telling it how it is

[naomi24]

Untitled, why do you persist? Khandro doesn’t want the vaccine, he is entitled to choose - and believe it or not your opinion - and that of the person you’re quoting - is irrelevant. He doesn’t want it. That’s that.

[Untitled]

i haven’t suggested otherwise

[Zacs-Master]

Me neither (for the record).

[Untitled]

i am not interested in persuading khandro to get vaccinated again… but i do think it is harmful for him to claim that his stroke was caused by his vaccine because that is hearsay which may cause other people not to receive the vaccine and is not supported by the best and most up to date information available