A very interesting point was raised on the Mathew Wright Show today

[Bobbisox]

Are foreign workers really taking our jobs?
or as a Nation, are we too lazy?
Who really is to blame?
The company's for exploiting foreign workers by paying them a lot less?
This is always an emotive topic so let me state here and now, I am not being a Racist bigot

[DrFilth]

redhelen his wife is english and works so she will get that ?

[Bobbisox]

is it possible to get back to the OP now please?

[DrFilth]

sorry Bobbisox they probably are exploiting foreign workers a little bit if no one was forced to take these jobs they would have to pay higher wages

[Bobbisox]

I very likely did

[jackthehat]

I know of one 'franchise owner' who advertises for staff exclusively in Eastern Europe. The successful candidates are flown over to a UK airport (at an expense they agree to work to pay off) collected by a staff vehicle (again, charged to their account) and given a room in a rented, shared property.(guess what ?)

All of the financial 'details' are sorted out by the Wages Department and the workers themselves receive a pittance........but you'll be pleased to learn that there isn't a single law which has been broken.

[Bobbisox]

No, Jack I know there is no laws being broken in general which is why I, personally, see these foreign workers as being exploited

[Bobbisox]

and Brits too lazy to get off their behinds
to do the work you are on about

[Old_Geezer]

Define exploitation. We are all explioted in the sense that our employer gets more from employing us than they pay us :-) Companies are taking advantage of what they can do, to the detriment of the home grown labour force. The immigrants accepting the jobs are happy to do so because it is better than they would get at home. Is that exploitation ? Maybe of the situation, perhaps not so much of the individual immigrants. But it is debatable, if not a useful debate.

[jackthehat]

The point is that the employers *don't want* Brits to take up a lot of these positions.
We wouldn't stand for the nonsense that the 'foreigners' are expected to put up with.

[Bobbisox]

paying them a pittance is exploitation is it not?
we would expect to travel abroad and take a job that pays well wouldn't we?

[yogi-bear]

In these times though, jth, employers can probably choose more or less what they want and whom they want, if the Brit's prove to be "troublesome" and not fit in with company poliicies.

[jackthehat]

As I said, Yogi, in my experience, it is precisely because the Brits would not settle for being treated like the employers often wish to be able to treat them.

[Bobbisox]

which in itself, is exploitation?

[Old_Geezer]

A pittance at UK costs may not be a pittance at foreign country costs. The comparison is not that simple.

[yogi-bear]

Agreed jth :0)

[jackthehat]

There are 'foreign workers' who can exploit British working practices and laws.........and there are many British bosses who will and can exploit 'foreign workers'.

[jackthehat]

O_G - 'Pittance' in this instance means that the monies received 'in hand' are far, far below anything that ought to be legally payable for the hours worked; these workers still have to be able to live on their wages and it often is very difficult to do so....on *that* money in *this* country.