Muslims are integrating better than christians

[Gromit]

Can this be true?

http://www.telegraph....-equalities-boss.html

[jackthehat]

<I hope you have the smelling-salts to hand.........> :o)

[Count-A-Strong]

However the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission expressed concern that people of faith are "under siege" from atheists whom he accused of attempting to "drive religion underground".

Amen to that.

[Sqad]

CAS....that is a good point.......the article is more of an anti atheist theme than one of "Muslims integrating better than Christians....whatever that means.

[emmie]

that's trevor phillips for you, not exactly unbiased, and no i don't believe it for one minute. Live in the capital, its not one of integration, perhaps in 50 years, but not now. I don't need to be told by left wing, right wing factions, or any politicians, i can see it for myself. And people bang on about it as a colour issue, it isn't, it's a cultural issue, and has been all along. I don't care my neighbours are brown, black, or whatever, but if their religion, culture clashes with mine, or they do not accept that coming to a country means obeying those laws, then i'm sorry that isn't right.

[Count-A-Strong]

I wonder what religion the chairman of the EHRC is? Or maybe he's an atheist?

[sandyRoe]

Imagine the Muslim faith had a wing like the Jehovah's Witnesses. Integration would be set back 20 years. The fact that they don't shows that, for the most part, they are a decent lot.

[Sqad]

sandy.

<<<<<Imagine the Muslim faith had a wing like the Jehovah's Witnesses.>>>

The have, less violent than the Jehovah's Witnesses......they call it "Fanatical Terrorism"

[RATTER15]

Muslims have to make more of an effort to integrate, they would never be able to become airline pilots else!

[237SJ]

Pardon?

[RATTER15]

Excused!

[emmie]

No site i have looked at gives his religion, however given his background, i would say he was raised as a Christian. He maybe an atheist now or Muslim, but going on where he was born and raised would go for first option.
He is a controversial character, and has caused anger not just in black community, but in government circles. and seeing how many people have quit since his appointment, doesn't sound as though he is an easy person to get on with. I have Seen him in interviews, and he does have a tendency to say one thing, then next week completely contradict it.

[jackthehat]

From the article :

<<However, Mr Phillips, who is a Salvationist from a strong Christian background>>

[anotheoldgit]

/// Can this be true? ///

Only if you agree with what Mr Phillips says.

Below are a couple of other statements from him.

/// faith groups should be free from interference in their own affairs, meaning churches should be allowed to block women and homosexuals from being priests and bishops; ///

/// that many cases were driven by fundamentalist Christians who are holding increasing sway over the mainstream churches because of the influence of African and Caribbean immigrants with "intolerant" views. ///

Must agree with him though over his view on multiculturalism.

/// Mr Phillips, a former Labour chairman of the Greater London Assembly and television producer was criticised for his £110,000 a year salary and was accused of "pandering to the right" by Ken Livingstone, the former Labour London mayor, for saying that multiculturalism had failed. ///

[RATTER15]

<<However, Mr Phillips, who is a Salvationist from a strong Christian background>>


Same here and Im an Atheist! Ok, "I was" A slavationist.

[Count-A-Strong]

He can hardly give an unbiased religion if he's a Christian and his comments have probBly done his popularity amongst his own religion any good. But then he doesn't seem like bs cares.

[modeller]

Depends on what you mean by ' Integrate '. All the Muslims I know largely keep themselves separate . They prefer to use other Muslims for their needs. Where I live I see Muslims having work done to their homes , repairs to TVs, PCs, gardens , cars etc and invariably they employ fellow Muslims. They also use Muslim shops and live in predominate Muslim areas. I can understand why they may do these things but
it's hardly interegrating.
Of course they are not alone in adopting some of these things e.g. Jews do the same sort of thing when its possible.

[emmie]

modeller indeed and that is why if you travel round this city, where more recent immigrants have settled in one place, and now form community type ghettoes. Chinatown is no different, many who own or run shops there, don't or won't speak English. There was a fuss about the Bangladeshi community wanting to change Spitalfields name to Banglatown, as the majority in that area are from Bangladesh, And if you look at Tower Hamlets website, it says Spitalfields, Banglatown. Tower Hamlets council is also asking to be considered for city status, something they are entitled to do next year for the Queens Diamond Jubilee. That i find bizarre, considering its a council, not say a town like Reading, which i believe has also applied. So apart from the City of London, it also wants to be a city.