ChatterBank1 min ago
the poor lose out again
don't you love it when the tories say > in real terms <
does this mean they were only joking or lying terms last time
http://itn.co.uk/uk/2...out+in+NHS+reforms%27
god help the sick under the tory and liberals
does this mean they were only joking or lying terms last time
http://itn.co.uk/uk/2...out+in+NHS+reforms%27
god help the sick under the tory and liberals
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Dr Filth.... your points on the NHS are well taken, but you have undermined your issue by politicising it. The inadequacies of the NHS have been highlighted and also increasing under ALL Political Parties.
08:12 Mon 01st Aug 2011
'Real Terms', as any A-level economics student could tell you, is a statistical term expressing the value of an investment/money once real-world variables have been factored in (it usually refers to the figure you get when you adjust spending to be in line with inflation):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_terms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_terms
So, to give an example, the argument the government gave in the '80s for health spending declining as a % of GDP was that GDP had grown and inflation was lower, so 'in real terms', spending on health was going up (which is true for some years but I think the general trend in-real-terms for the decade was simply that spending didn't actually decline much. Been a while since I last read up on this though so I may be wrong).
Kromovaracun hope you don't have to go in or you may find these real terms are more like fake terms
next door to me her mother was rushed in , spent the night there next day signed herself out
one nurse for the whole ward, the old lady opposite had to wait just over 30 minutes for the nurse to bring her the commode
she said sod it i am going home
next door to me her mother was rushed in , spent the night there next day signed herself out
one nurse for the whole ward, the old lady opposite had to wait just over 30 minutes for the nurse to bring her the commode
she said sod it i am going home
>> DAVID Cameron maintained that the NHS was safe in Tory hands as he outlined the first significant changes to the government's controversial NHS reforms.
David Cameron admitted ministers had “learnt a lot” in recent weeks and insisted that many people had changed their minds about the proposals.
In a speech to NHS staff in London, the Prime Minister admitted there were areas of the reforms that needed to change. <<
David Cameron admitted ministers had “learnt a lot” in recent weeks and insisted that many people had changed their minds about the proposals.
In a speech to NHS staff in London, the Prime Minister admitted there were areas of the reforms that needed to change. <<
factor itchy who use to post on ab has now got his mother back home
if he or one of his brothers or his sister had not stayed with her when she was in hospital
let me just say i don't think she would still be here
sign over the bed said blind
when the food came it was just placed on the tray at the end of the bed how was that blind person supposed to see it
same with tablets, plonked down
wait till some of you on here see it for yourself then you might have a different view
if he or one of his brothers or his sister had not stayed with her when she was in hospital
let me just say i don't think she would still be here
sign over the bed said blind
when the food came it was just placed on the tray at the end of the bed how was that blind person supposed to see it
same with tablets, plonked down
wait till some of you on here see it for yourself then you might have a different view
For Chrissake....
I am not disputing any of that. I'm not trying to present a rosy picture of the health service. I'm not trying to say that your or your mates haven't had bad experiences - or that they're uncommon. But your question (if you have one) is about stats, figures etc. and the use of the word 'real terms'. Which I have explained to you and you seem to be ignoring.
Now, your experiences and the stats - in this case - do not contradict each other. Or not necessarily, anyhow, as far as I can tell. But if you're going to even begin to try and intelligently assess the problems of the health service, the complexity of them and their nuances, you need to be able to understand that and try to fill in the gaps from there. Now someone's inevitably going to come along and accuse me of being patronising or something like that, but you know what? It's the truth. And I'm not one for rejecting evidence for no reason other than that I dislike it or that it's not in-line with something that I'm aware happened to someone else.
I am not disputing any of that. I'm not trying to present a rosy picture of the health service. I'm not trying to say that your or your mates haven't had bad experiences - or that they're uncommon. But your question (if you have one) is about stats, figures etc. and the use of the word 'real terms'. Which I have explained to you and you seem to be ignoring.
Now, your experiences and the stats - in this case - do not contradict each other. Or not necessarily, anyhow, as far as I can tell. But if you're going to even begin to try and intelligently assess the problems of the health service, the complexity of them and their nuances, you need to be able to understand that and try to fill in the gaps from there. Now someone's inevitably going to come along and accuse me of being patronising or something like that, but you know what? It's the truth. And I'm not one for rejecting evidence for no reason other than that I dislike it or that it's not in-line with something that I'm aware happened to someone else.
sqad i know of one case that would knock a few people sick on here but i think there is an ongoing legal case over it.
at the end of the day the ones in power who said the nhs are safe in our hands are lying
they can fiddle all the figures they want to make people like Kromovaracun speak up for them
it is the poor who have no bupa membership who lose out
it is those who want to see a specialist who have the long wait who lose out
it is those who need a special drug with a dear price who lose out
at the end of the day if one of the above is your son or daughter, mum or dad
you will then lose out
at the end of the day the ones in power who said the nhs are safe in our hands are lying
they can fiddle all the figures they want to make people like Kromovaracun speak up for them
it is the poor who have no bupa membership who lose out
it is those who want to see a specialist who have the long wait who lose out
it is those who need a special drug with a dear price who lose out
at the end of the day if one of the above is your son or daughter, mum or dad
you will then lose out
"they can fiddle all the figures they want to make people like Kromovaracun speak up for them"
So despite the meaning of the words 'in real terms' being explained to you quite extensively, with a link for further information, you are actively choosing to continue to believe your initial judgement on it.
sigh...
So despite the meaning of the words 'in real terms' being explained to you quite extensively, with a link for further information, you are actively choosing to continue to believe your initial judgement on it.
sigh...
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