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Sikhs to protest in Parliament Square.
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http://www.independen...ect-demo-2360749.html
Should the Sikhs be allowed the privilege of not to having their turbans hand searched at airports?
After all every male can be asked to remove his trousers if necessary, all in the name of security.
It seems though that tolerant Britain is once again taking the initiative by putting the rest of Europe's airport security right.
/// Aviation Minister Theresa Villiers said: "I fully recognise the cultural and religious sensitivities surrounding the touching of a Sikh's turban, which is why this Government acted swiftly when the Sikh community expressed concern about new EU rules on the searching of turbans at airports. ///
/// "I have also written to ministers across Europe with responsibility for aviation security to explain this trial and to underline the importance the UK attaches to resolving this issue."///
Should the Sikhs be allowed the privilege of not to having their turbans hand searched at airports?
After all every male can be asked to remove his trousers if necessary, all in the name of security.
It seems though that tolerant Britain is once again taking the initiative by putting the rest of Europe's airport security right.
/// Aviation Minister Theresa Villiers said: "I fully recognise the cultural and religious sensitivities surrounding the touching of a Sikh's turban, which is why this Government acted swiftly when the Sikh community expressed concern about new EU rules on the searching of turbans at airports. ///
/// "I have also written to ministers across Europe with responsibility for aviation security to explain this trial and to underline the importance the UK attaches to resolving this issue."///
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More sh*t stirring in the extreme.
If they've passed through a scanner without activating the alarm then why would they need to remove the turban for a further search?
We hear a lot about Muslim radicals and extremism. As far as I'm aware, Sikh extremism in the current era has yet to rear its ugly head........
Many Sikh families in this country have a far greater bond with the UK than most other 'home grown' extremists.
http://en.wikipedia.o...red_under_the_British
If they've passed through a scanner without activating the alarm then why would they need to remove the turban for a further search?
We hear a lot about Muslim radicals and extremism. As far as I'm aware, Sikh extremism in the current era has yet to rear its ugly head........
Many Sikh families in this country have a far greater bond with the UK than most other 'home grown' extremists.
http://en.wikipedia.o...red_under_the_British
I am sikh individual born in this country and i just want to make it known the only reason this country is not under nazi rule is because of the TURBAN wearing sikhs that faught for Great Britain in World War 1 and 2....infact approx 80 odd thousand sikhs dided for great britain and over 100 thousand were injured...nobody then appeared to have an issue with the turban wearing sikhs....
here is a quote from the great Winston Churchill:
"...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud."
here is a quote from the great Winston Churchill:
"...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud."
I am sikh individual born in this country and i just want to make it known the only reason this country is not under nazi rule is because of the TURBAN wearing sikhs that faught for Great Britain in World War 1 and 2....infact approx 80 odd thousand sikhs dided for great britain and over 100 thousand were injured...nobody then appeared to have an issue with the turban wearing sikhs....
In addition can i also mention the queens personal bodygaurds are TURBAN WEARING SIKHS!!!!
here is a quote from the great Winston Churchill:
"...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud."
In addition can i also mention the queens personal bodygaurds are TURBAN WEARING SIKHS!!!!
here is a quote from the great Winston Churchill:
"...British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence. In the war, they fought and died for us, wearing the turbans. At that time we were not adamant that they should wear safety helmets because we knew that they are not going to wear them anyways and we would be deprived of their help. At that time due to our miserable and poor situation, we did not force it on them to wear safety helmets, why should we force it now? Rather, we should now respect their traditions and by granting this legitimate concession, win their applaud."
singhisking (or who ever you actually are!!) you have given some lovely figures but seem to have forgotten to show figures for all other nationalities/religions. Without the numbers of deaths for all the others involved being included your argument is meaningless, I would hazard a guess that the numbers you have supplied make up only a couple of percent of all wounded or dead soldiers from the two World Wars.
what is the relevance of that sikhisking - there has been various tension issues between Muslims and Sikhs in India and here in the UK - and various beheadings. That must cause security concerns.
Not withstanding that, any Sikh, Muslim, or even a Christian is capable of extreme incidents on a plane and all should be subjected to the right to remove clothing, religious or not, in a dignified manner if so requested.
I am sure that not all Sikhs are searched, neither are Muslims under the Abaya or the Bisht or Taqiyah, or Christians undea coat or hat.
And then we have the radicalism of Dal Khalsa just to add some more worry to security.
Calls about one way tickets here are so puerile but, unfortunately, they are serious - there are some abhorrent people on AB who would welcome this, though most folk are decent multi-cultural and pluralistic societal accepting folk. Those who are not are disgusting and reflect the worst of British nationalism. We know who they are.
Not withstanding that, any Sikh, Muslim, or even a Christian is capable of extreme incidents on a plane and all should be subjected to the right to remove clothing, religious or not, in a dignified manner if so requested.
I am sure that not all Sikhs are searched, neither are Muslims under the Abaya or the Bisht or Taqiyah, or Christians undea coat or hat.
And then we have the radicalism of Dal Khalsa just to add some more worry to security.
Calls about one way tickets here are so puerile but, unfortunately, they are serious - there are some abhorrent people on AB who would welcome this, though most folk are decent multi-cultural and pluralistic societal accepting folk. Those who are not are disgusting and reflect the worst of British nationalism. We know who they are.
sandyRoe
/// Wasn't it a Sikh who planted a bomb on a plane from Canada where 329 people were killed? ///
Quite correct Sandy, but the bomb was in a suitcase not a turban.
http://abcnews.go.com...story?id=82249&page=1
/// Wasn't it a Sikh who planted a bomb on a plane from Canada where 329 people were killed? ///
Quite correct Sandy, but the bomb was in a suitcase not a turban.
http://abcnews.go.com...story?id=82249&page=1
anotheoldgit: The one person that was convicted in the plane bombing probably deserved to and did go down in the end and I'm in no way condoning or denying this most grave and abhorrent incident but there was outside pressure from the Canadian, American and indian governements to bring someone to justice quickly. This happened in the context time period of operation bluestar in India, which is one of the darkest days in Indian History and one of the most repressive acts a government has carried out against its civilians. Critically, history also tells us that policitians and public anger bring fickle justice to the masses immediately after a time of a horrific tragedy. And to use ABC news articles to support debates on a seperate yet important issue is a bit naive at best. Next you'll be quoting CNN (or good old Bush himself!) for the latest intelligence reports!
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