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'Beautiful Woman' weeps over Internet vitriol
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What are people's views on the journalist Samantha Brick who wrote a piece in yesterday's Daily Mail advising that women dislike / hate / fear her because she is so beautiful.
Today, she is an Internet and Twitter sensation thanks to the sheer volume of negative comment she has received -
http://www.dailymail....oves-shes-right.html.
The irony for most people is that Ms. Brick is really not that attractive at all, and she is doubly damned for her egotistical view of herself.
So - let's not simply replicate the comments thus far, but consider the issue of beautiful women and the help / hindrance looks can be in our appearence-obsessed culture.
Today, she is an Internet and Twitter sensation thanks to the sheer volume of negative comment she has received -
http://www.dailymail....oves-shes-right.html.
The irony for most people is that Ms. Brick is really not that attractive at all, and she is doubly damned for her egotistical view of herself.
So - let's not simply replicate the comments thus far, but consider the issue of beautiful women and the help / hindrance looks can be in our appearence-obsessed culture.
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AOG
There's no comparison between Liam Stacey's racist remarks:
http://1.bp.blogspot....JMo/s1600/MUAMBA2.jpg
And the mickey taking that is being fired at Samantha Brick:
http://www.dailymail....roves-shes-right.html
You cannot compare the two at all...
There's no comparison between Liam Stacey's racist remarks:
http://1.bp.blogspot....JMo/s1600/MUAMBA2.jpg
And the mickey taking that is being fired at Samantha Brick:
http://www.dailymail....roves-shes-right.html
You cannot compare the two at all...
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It's a bit like watching damaged vehicles on the other carriageway, you dont want to look but you are drawn to it. I read all the rubish she wrote yesterday with disbelief and looked hard at the pictures trying to fathom out what I was missing. Maybe we have all been duped and she had a bet with Daily Mail that she could provoke thousands of people to comment. She sure can do that. Perhaps the Mail will take her on. If this is the case you can but admire her. If she is for real she needs help and a reality check. Even her husband wears a flak jacket and carries a gun when alongside her!
sp1814
Well excuse me for saying this, but being a black person you do have bias view on this.
Yes to a black person some remarks on their colour can hurt, that I grant you.
But also will you not equally agree that other hurtful remarks, that have no bearing on a person's skin colour, can be just as hurtful?
Everyone have different views on what is deemed hurtful, so therefore everyone should be protected from these types of abuses.
This particular lady just happened to write a particular piece about herself, now whether or not she was wise to do so is another matter, but just read how these abusive comments have upset her.
/// The past 24 hours have been, to be blunt, among the most horrendous of my life. ///
/// I've been lambasted on Twitter. Dragons' Den judge Duncan Bannatyne has asked if what I've written is 'a joke', DJ Lauren Laverne tweeted about me all day (none of it nice) and countless so-called comedians have written unprintable things about me. ///
/// Other people who don't know me have queued up to call me ugly, stupid, a b****. ///
Is there any need for it all?
Well excuse me for saying this, but being a black person you do have bias view on this.
Yes to a black person some remarks on their colour can hurt, that I grant you.
But also will you not equally agree that other hurtful remarks, that have no bearing on a person's skin colour, can be just as hurtful?
Everyone have different views on what is deemed hurtful, so therefore everyone should be protected from these types of abuses.
This particular lady just happened to write a particular piece about herself, now whether or not she was wise to do so is another matter, but just read how these abusive comments have upset her.
/// The past 24 hours have been, to be blunt, among the most horrendous of my life. ///
/// I've been lambasted on Twitter. Dragons' Den judge Duncan Bannatyne has asked if what I've written is 'a joke', DJ Lauren Laverne tweeted about me all day (none of it nice) and countless so-called comedians have written unprintable things about me. ///
/// Other people who don't know me have queued up to call me ugly, stupid, a b****. ///
Is there any need for it all?
Had she written an article on anything other than her looks.......she would have received comments about the content of the article only.
As the substance of her writing was *herself* that is precisely what was commented upon in return.
And in the main, all the remarks have been about the disparity between what she claims herself for her looks and what the rest of the world can see.
As the substance of her writing was *herself* that is precisely what was commented upon in return.
And in the main, all the remarks have been about the disparity between what she claims herself for her looks and what the rest of the world can see.
AOG - no i would not agree that other remarks can be just as hurtful.
This woman is a professional journalist and has either been foolish or clever enough to write this feature based on her self-perception. Her own concious actions for payment have led to the vitriol she has received.
I do not for one moment condone abuse for any reason - but if as it appears, tyou wish to debate a 'scale' of impact, then there is no compariosn between a woman who has invited opinions on her looks, and a person of colour who is lambasted purely on the basis of ethnic origin.
Anyone can form a negative opinion about someone else's character and persona, and debate it fairly - and without personal rancour, but to castigate someone for an accident of birth is not by and means comparable.
This woman is a professional journalist and has either been foolish or clever enough to write this feature based on her self-perception. Her own concious actions for payment have led to the vitriol she has received.
I do not for one moment condone abuse for any reason - but if as it appears, tyou wish to debate a 'scale' of impact, then there is no compariosn between a woman who has invited opinions on her looks, and a person of colour who is lambasted purely on the basis of ethnic origin.
Anyone can form a negative opinion about someone else's character and persona, and debate it fairly - and without personal rancour, but to castigate someone for an accident of birth is not by and means comparable.
No, there isn't any need for it at all, aog, but some people enjoy insulting others online, more rarely by letter, and usually do so when hidden by a pseudonym. Happily, that doesn't happen on AB.
Curiously, but sensibly, what the law calls 'vulgar abuse' isn't actionable. So suggesting, in very vulgar terms, that someone's father was not married to their mother, that they are addicted to self- pleasure, or they are free with their favours (I coyly write), isn't actionable, but putting it in polite terms could be. Just as well, really; the civil courts for Stamford Bridge would be doing little else.
Curiously, but sensibly, what the law calls 'vulgar abuse' isn't actionable. So suggesting, in very vulgar terms, that someone's father was not married to their mother, that they are addicted to self- pleasure, or they are free with their favours (I coyly write), isn't actionable, but putting it in polite terms could be. Just as well, really; the civil courts for Stamford Bridge would be doing little else.
To me the whole article yesterday was about one woman's intense vanity and tosday she's trying to justify it against the backlash of people commenting on that vanity. If she was some kind of a beauty then you could understand a certain level of self assurance but she's not, I personally wouldn 't look twice at her, there are far far better looking women in any part of the country. I'd suggest a psychological thing rather than anything else.
I earlier made reference between hurtful and abusive comments made towards persons via Twitter, commenting that to some of this type of abuse can be as hurtful to the recipient as racial abusive comments can be to certain minority groups.
But now it appears that some non-racial hurtful comments made via twitter, can turn out to be an arrestable offence.
http://www.dailymail....assing-colleague.html
/// The Facebook conversation is said to have taken place on a Saturday, when the school was closed, and begins with teacher Stuart Clark writing that he is ‘fed up of bumping into children in town’. ///
Later Nyanza Roberts makes a reference to an area of the town and adds: ‘No wonder everyone is thick… inbreeding must damage brain development.’
/// Head Debbie Johnson responded: ‘You’re really on one today mrs…!!Xx’ ///
/// Miss Roberts replies: ‘Haha I’m actually in a good mood!! If anyone reading this is offended, then get a grip!!’ ///
/// Another teacher, Jane Johnson, then interjects: ‘Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in poundland!X’ ///
All very damaging stuff, me thinks.
But now it appears that some non-racial hurtful comments made via twitter, can turn out to be an arrestable offence.
http://www.dailymail....assing-colleague.html
/// The Facebook conversation is said to have taken place on a Saturday, when the school was closed, and begins with teacher Stuart Clark writing that he is ‘fed up of bumping into children in town’. ///
Later Nyanza Roberts makes a reference to an area of the town and adds: ‘No wonder everyone is thick… inbreeding must damage brain development.’
/// Head Debbie Johnson responded: ‘You’re really on one today mrs…!!Xx’ ///
/// Miss Roberts replies: ‘Haha I’m actually in a good mood!! If anyone reading this is offended, then get a grip!!’ ///
/// Another teacher, Jane Johnson, then interjects: ‘Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in poundland!X’ ///
All very damaging stuff, me thinks.
AOG
The only feedback to her original article I've seen is in andy-hughes' Daily Mail link and frankly, most of them are very funny indeed.
If she HAS been abused on Twitter, then she should report the abuse in the same way that anyone else can.
There is a huge difference between valid criticism such as, "Get over yourself, you are really NOT that good looking", and calling someone a b*tch. That is unacceptable, and shows a feeble mind.
What I believe this woman is complaining about is the whole nation doubled over laughing at her. She has made *herself* a laughing stock.
Black footballers do not invite Twitter abuse, it just flows to them. What Miss Brick has done is stood above the parapet and shouted 'Fire'.
Some people have duly responded.
The only feedback to her original article I've seen is in andy-hughes' Daily Mail link and frankly, most of them are very funny indeed.
If she HAS been abused on Twitter, then she should report the abuse in the same way that anyone else can.
There is a huge difference between valid criticism such as, "Get over yourself, you are really NOT that good looking", and calling someone a b*tch. That is unacceptable, and shows a feeble mind.
What I believe this woman is complaining about is the whole nation doubled over laughing at her. She has made *herself* a laughing stock.
Black footballers do not invite Twitter abuse, it just flows to them. What Miss Brick has done is stood above the parapet and shouted 'Fire'.
Some people have duly responded.
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