john terry, el hadji diouf, answerbankers and

[Mick-Talbot]

Double standards.



Did El hadji diouf ever go to court for calling the ball boy



..........White boy ?...........

[sp1814]

Mick-Talbot

I have to point you back to what I said earlier. The police investigated and perhaps found that the lad was lying. Perhaps they sent the case to the CPS and it was decided that there wasn't enough evidence.

It seems to me that it is NOT acceptable to say, "F off white boy", because if it were why were the police called, and why did they carry out an investigation?

[Mick-Talbot]

Diouf defended his actions by saying that the ball-boy had thrown the ball to him "like a bone to a dog"

[ummmm]

I think the majority of white people haven't suffered any oppression so comments regarding their colour are meaningless.

[ludwig]

Did he admit saying the words at the time? If so, it implies there was sufficient evidence, and he should have been charged.

[ludwig]

I disagree ummmm. You can't have a law that says racist language is illegal but only if it's directed at black people.

[Mick-Talbot]

Diouf has a history of spitting at white people.

[Messi_Ten]

I think Diouf is Terry's long lost brother!

http://www.telegraph....f-wall-of-shame.html#

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// I think the majority of white people haven't suffered any oppression so comments regarding their colour are meaningless. ///

Now that is the most overgeneralised statement I have ever read.

But regardless of that, I thought black was beautiful and a colour to be proud of?

Now which is it something to be proud of or something to be ashamed of?

[Mick-Talbot]

Once again AOG ......You have me baffled.

[sp1814]

Yes AOG - you've lost me too...

[FredPuli43]

The law relating to this and to John Terry is that it's an offence to use threatening, abusive, or insulting words in the sight or hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment alarm or distress thereby. It becomes more serious as an offence if the words are also 'racially aggravated', that is displaying hostility directed at someone because of their presumed membership of some group of persons defined by race or religion.

First question therefore is whether saying 'F off' to the lad fell within the above definition, in particular 'likely to be caused'. It would be surprising if it did. Calling a boy a boy presumably isn't. So that leaves the racial element. It's highly unlikely that he would be alarmed or distressed by being callled white or that anyone hearing it would be. So does the statement as a whole become more alarming or distressing than the individual words? Possibly, but still not 'likely' to cause distress or alarm. That 'white boy', in the context, were words displaying intentional hostility towards the boy as of a 'group', a race, which is white is fairly plain, but the case fails because of the other elements which must be proved.

[ludwig]

^ You don't think telling someone to f*ck off is likely to cause them harrassment, alarm, or distress then?

[bazwillrun]

"I thought black was beautiful and a colour to be proud of? "

why is that most black footballers seem to be with white women ?

[Messi_Ten]

...because they're colour blind!

[FredPuli43]

No, Ludwig, I don't think telling someone to f*ck off is likely to cause them distress or alarm. People have been saying that to me since when I was a boy, without my turning a hair. I'm no more resolute or tough than others. It's a fact of existence in London and around Newmarket!

[Mick-Talbot]

No, Ludwig, I don't think telling someone to f*ck off is likely to cause them distress or alarm.

Some amazing answers here .
The teenager was distressed by the outburst. if someone spoke in that manner to my own teenage son, I think it would distress him too.

[ludwig]

// People have been saying that to me since when I was a boy, //

Ok. Can't argue with that I suppose.

Well if there's anyone out there that has a hankering to say 'F.. off black\white* boy' to anyone at random, your analysis gives them the green light. It's apparently neither racist nor likely to cause distress or offence. You learn something new on here every day.

(*delete as applicable)

[ummmm]

ludwig - I didn't say it was right. I just don't think white people are offended by it.

[ummmm]

In the same way!

[Mick-Talbot]

If a black person said to me 'F**k off white boy' to me ummmm, I would consider that he was spoiling for a fight and unless he was built like Lennox Lewis ...he would get one.

Of course I would be offened.