Female Police Officers

[maggiebee]

Just heard on the news that the second policewoman who was shot has died.

[Kerosene]

Can two wrongs ever make a right? I happen to believe that both Bentley and Evans were wrongly hanged.

Bentley (18) was allegedly convicted on the strength of shouting: "Let him have it, Chris". His accomplice, Chris Craig (16) then fired the pistol, killing a Police Officer, and at the subsequent trial was convicted because of the interpretation that his words meant "kill him, Chris" as opposed to "hand him the gun, Chris". Bentley was old enough under the law to face the death penalty whereas Craig was too young.

As for Evans, he was convicted simply because he said he did it! He was what used to be called 'backward', and the real killer, his landlord John Christie, wasn't unmasked for another 3 years, by which time of course it was far too late for the unfortunate Evans.

A very sobering thought indeed!

[mike11111]

I agree that Bentley was wrongly hanged, but not that he was not guilty and therefore should not have been sentenced to death. The "wrong" was that the sentence was carried out on a witless young thug. You have been reading the romanticised version of the case; it did not depend upon a construction of the words, "Let him have it", rather on whether the joint enterprise had ceased once Bentley had been taken into police custody. Rightly or wrongly, the Court of Appeal decided that it had not.

[Kerosene]

mike,

Fair enough, but given that Bentley, like Timothy Evans, was far from being the sharpest tool in the box would nowadays - if we still had capital punishment - save him from the 'chop'.

I do realise that that wasn't a realistic option some 60 years ago. He didn't really stand much chance of acquittal, poor little sod.

[mike11111]

As I said earlier, pure politics. You couldn't have a police officer murdered without someone swinging for it, just as three years later you couldn't have someone letting off six bullets in a London street, dizzy young blonde or not.

[emmie]

zeuhl, have to disagree with you on this one. the two officers are not in a better place, whilst the person who did this will at least get fed, watered and will enjoy privileges that they have now been denied. I hope their families get justice.

[emmie]

methyl, let us not adopt the ways of some of our more extreme fundamentalists, that he goes to prison for a lifetime would do.

[TWR]

Ok, some are against the the rope, but can someone please explain! whilst in the nick a prisoner can demand to have a laptop & if its refused that would be against his rights, if another prisoner cracks him, he / she can sue the service as has been recorded, the prisoner has three meal a day, heating, a gym, a wage for doing some sort of job, a person that has fought for the freedom against other country's has a job to keep warm has a choice between eating or heating or paying his / her bills, you tell me the justice system in this country is fair, a person murders someone & gets out before his / her time is up today's Mirror, prisoners succeed in suing the Prison service because it breaches their Human Rights, tell me who is better off, a person that keeps within the law or a pratt that knows he / she will do anything against the law & gets treated better than a person that has fought for his/her country! G.B. & the law, its a bloody joke.

[stokemaveric]

zeuhl..i hate to spoil your party...but even the dad of 1 of those brave policewomen has called for the re-introduction of the death penalty for police killers...try giving him your statistics...im sure he would happily tell you where to shove them...

[Zeuhl]

TWR

show me the person who, on retirement, would refuse life on a basic pension with all the challenges (and opportunities) that presents

and opt instead for 20 years in a smelly, cramped prison wing.
you can only watch so much telly or play so much x-box.
Knowing you can never just go where you like, do what you like, eat what you like, be with who you like

No sorry - no one is going to convince me that any murderer category prison wing (no matter how well equipped) is a place anyone in their right mind would want to be.

[dotty.]

I think hanging would be a deterent if they actually went ahead and carried out the sentence, in the USA the sentence is commuted or deferred whilst apeals went on, it would be a deterent if at the time of sentencing there was not a shadow of doubt of the guilt and that the sentence was unreducable or unappealable on those grounds.I this case the suspect did the crime but how many investigations ans reports will there be into incompetency, mental state, medical background etc etc.

[ummmm]

//whilst in the nick a prisoner can demand to have a laptop & if its refused that would be against his rights//

Where did you read that, TWR? Because it's not true. Things they have in their cells have to be earnt, one foot out of place and it gets taken back. Most Cat A prisoners are locked up 22-23 hours a day.

[baza]

at least the bu99ers are still alive unlike their victims.

[Zeuhl]

<but even the dad of 1 of those brave policewomen has called for the re-introduction of the death penalty for police killers>

stoke

let's get this right

you think a man who has just had his daughter murdered is in the best position to make an objective, rational, facts based decision on a matter that affects our entire society.

Yes that makes much more sense than relying on the facts - well done.

[Kerosene]

TWR,

"..but can someone please explain!"

You haven't read my post at the top of this page, then?

[stokemaveric]

zeuhl..his comments are rational he has just lost his daughter and those are his beliefs...id like you to tell him that his comments are irrational and that he is making his statement because he is at this moment in time unable to make a coherant statement as he is to consumed by grief..that is his belief and just because you are a hand-wringing do gooder who views the world through rose tinted glasses does not mean that people who are in grief cannot make a sensible statement...

[TWR]

Kerosence, I have read your post with interest, Ummmm, demand a lap top & get it, the HOOK that evil piece of Sht that shouts hatred in London demanded a Laptop & got one, Kerosence, I pity the Force for trying in vain to do the job, they do the job well ( Creep Creep) only to be let down by the stupid justice system, example, that pratt of a judge last week, letting off that knob head saying he admired him for doing the burglaries, until this justice system is sorted to fit the crime, crime will continue at the rate it's been going at, regards the basd that murdered the two police officers, with respect, they will be buried within a week, one was ready to get wed, the other, in her twenties, that evil piece of Sht, where will he be? I will let the do-gooders answer that.

[ummmm]

Like I said, where are you reading this?

[TWR]

Like I said, it was given to him. ( Fact)

[ummmm]

And how did you come across that info?