Army girl gives birth in Camp Bastion

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....rth-Taliban-raid.html

Shouldn't all female Service personnel, be given a pregnancy test before leaving for an overseas posting, especially to a war zone?

[emmie]

if so then check all the males for Std's as that is a more likely problem than a one off pregnancy. For fluffing sake.

[Sqad]

\\\\According to figures released by the MoD, up to 200 female soldiers have been “aero medically evacuated” from war zones including Afghanistan and Iraq because of pregnancy over the past five years.\\\

It doesn't say when they became pregnant, but if it was before they entered the theatre of war, then pregnancy testing would have avoided these aerovac procedures.

[2sp_]

Can I just say that it's lovely to hear of someone being medically evacuated from a war zone for something other than being wounded in battle?

[emmie]

2sp or mortally wounded.

[sp1814]

AOG

Errr...

"as a British servicewoman who unknowingly gave birth prepared to fly home from Afghanistan"

Now, I will freely admit that not being a woman or a father, I'm no expert on the whole birthing process...however, I find it hard to believe that ANY woman can 'unknowlingly' give birth...what with all the labour pain, the umbilical cord, blood and most importantly - the little human being that comes schlepping out at the end of the process.

The MoD pain a pretty funy picture - a female gunner on the front line suddenly looks down at the ground and say, "Was this baby here when we got here, or is it mine?"

[emmie]

sp, can't see that piece, the report says the woman did not know she was pregnant,

[Svejk]

I expect she knew she was pregnant.Knowing the casual,crazy
way they throw public money around she'll probably qualify for higher battlefront pay for entire maternity leave.let's hope she doesn't get PND or we'll be paying her for donkeys' years. Probably till she sues us for not giving her a pregnancy test before deploying her.
If joe luke was joking, I'm not, woman have no place in front-line army or police. God, have you seen the pathetic,inneffectual way they faff about on those tv police shows.It's only after their male colleagues subdue/handcuff troublemakers they 'leap' back into action to read rights & claim arrests as their own.
Before the PC brigade give me a hard time ask yourself honestly if you had to confront these drunken yobs who would you want next to you?I bet you'd all want the biggest,meanest s.o.b. going. I'd be interested in Kerosene's view on this.

[friedgreentomato]

Actually your wrong I would trust my safe keeping to a couple of women anyway back us into a corner and we become hard fighting bitches and you sir are a disgusting specimen!!

[JustJenni]

A friend of mine had no idea she was pregnant and she found out at 6 months, she had very irregular periods from an eating disorder al thought shes better now and she was still the same size and hadnt felt a thing, she only went to the doctors because she kept getting dizzy. so it can happen

[jno]

em, sp1814's words come directly from the heading to the Telegraph's story

Female soldiers 'should take pregnancy tests before war zone deployment' <br/> <br/> Female soldiers should take pregnancy tests before heading to war, military experts said tonight, as a British servicewoman who unknowingly gave birth prepared to fly home from Afghanistan.

sp1814 is right, that is extremely bizarre wording.

[joeluke]

em10......'no all female service personnel shouldn't be given pregnancy tests.
No more than asking all male service personnel if they have a STD before leaving for a war zone.'

How does a man having an STD stop him carrying out his duties as a soldier?

As far as I know having an STD doesn't directly result in the birth of a young child so your comparison of STD's and pregnancy is way off the mark

.....and just in case you didn't know, women can get STD's too

[wolf63]

thetaliesin - woman have no place in front-line army or police. God, have you seen the pathetic,inneffectual way they faff about on those tv police shows

In this world there is fact and there is fiction. What you see on the TV shows is fiction. There is a place for suitable women in all jobs, just as there is for men.

Male gynaecologists - I have never been to see a female gynaecologist.

Male teachers - we should stop that, they could be perverts.

Women bus drivers - not acceptable, everybody knows that women can't drive.

All nurses should be female - the are much more 'touch-feely'.

All bullcrap.

If a person, regardless of gender, is suitable physically and psychologically for military service they should be allowed to enlist.

The 200 women who have been shipped home due to discovering that they are pregnant - considering how many women are out 'there' is that such a huge figure? The military will not be setting up personal airlifts for these women, they will be shipped home in the next available plane.

It is just an example of the Daily Mail stirring up trouble.

[Svejk]

F.G.T. Calm down, dear.
Ps. Is'nt it rather early to be drunk?

[sp1814]

Thanks jno. I was quoting 'by proxy' from a post from AOG earlier.

[Svejk]

Wolf, I've done my job for 40yrs, on building site, seen tens of thousands of men.Never seen or even heard of woman doing it.Have come across female engineers & very good they were too. This no doubt accounts for my old fashioned views but there we are,I'm sure we can live with our differences.
Why my ans. to the abuse I received from FGT was removed I've no idea.Expect I'll live with it.

[friedgreentomato]

Actually that was polite but feel free to say what you want to me - you don't scare me in the slightest?

[DTCwordfan]

there was an ad in the paper, if I remember the Manchester Guardian, many years ago for hoddies on a building site; the job ad included a lovely request for "a minimum of 42 inch chest and be prepared to strip to the waist in summer."

[mrs.chappie]

Yes. Makes a lot of sense to me. Give the test to all sexually active females as a matter of routine.

[emmie]

for the most part all i see on this thread is a load of blokes who think women shouldn't go to war. Well tough they do. Give them pregnancy tests before they go if that would make you all happy. One other thing is there is no breakdown of whether many of the women are nursing staff, so not in direct line of fire.

[anotheoldgit]

em10

/// If so then check all the males for Std's as that is a more likely problem than a one off pregnancy. For fluffing sake. ///

Why does everything have to be on a level footing, there are many things men have to put up with while women get away freely?

Incidentally in my time in the RAF, we were regularly check for Std's, perhaps it was because we couldn't keep the females off us, they were like bees round a honey pot, and one didn't know where they had been.