Is Chief Whip's Conduct Acceptable?

[Kerosene]

http://www.thesun.co....-them-fing-plebs.html

In the light of the brutal slayings of two Policewomen only 3 days ago, is this the kind of conduct conducive by a senior MP to engendering Police morale? Is his own apology enough? What if that had been you or I?

And IF he used foul language, shouldn't he stand down immediately?
Cameron, though, has more or less exonerated his man - a wise move?

[NOX]

You know I've come to the conclusion that you're not an ex police officer at all, I think you're just a sneaky little troll come to spread ill humour.

[Duncer]

A Tory calling people plebs isn't even news.

[EcclesCake]

As I don't know what was said and no police officer has actually made a complaint of abuse I'm not in a position to draw a conclusion on what should happen next.

[askyourgran]

He should have been demoted at the very least. I hate those "Doyou know who I am?" people. I'd like to see him slapped down.

[sandyRoe]

The Chief Whip is a bit like a RSM in a regiment, a bit thuggish and all swagger and bluster. This one seems to have got a bit above himself.

[sunny-dave]

I find myself in the unaccustomed (and indeed uncomfortable) position of defending a Tory minister - who has dropped a huge clanger by actually losing his temper, but only because was being pissed around by a ridiculous, jobsworth copper.

He is the Chief Whip (a very senior member of the government), he has had the Downing Street gates opened many times for him and his bicycle - this time some pompous prat in a flak jacket decides to be unnecessarily awkward.

I'd be bloody cross if it happened to me, hopefully my inbuilt "don't do that, dave" monitor would stop me making a scene and I'd take my revenge later, probably by making a complaint to get the irritating jobsworth in question moved to a less congenial posting.

[DTCwordfan]

Answer: 1 - there is no linkage between this and Manchester.

Answer 2: - How does it affect police morale, it is a mere spit in the bucket of issues that the Met have to handle.

Answer 3: - Yes, we may well have been arrested, but then I guess the Police involved knew him and vica versa.....

Answer 4: - Only he, the Policeman and his "God" know - unless it was picked up by the No Ten security system......if he has used foul language, then yes, a long walk off the Westminster Pier is in order.

[LazyGun]

I think you can often glean a lot about a person from their intemperate outbursts. Most telling I think was not so much the foul language, but the alleged use of phrases like "Do you know who I am ", "Learn your place", "you don't run this country", and of course, "pleb".

Following as it does the fragrant Mrs Dorries accusing Cameron and Osborne of being "arrogant posh boys", I would imagine the last thing Cameron would want is a Tory Chief Whip who would seem to epitomise the stereotype of uncaring, blustering, posh boy privilege.....

[askyourgran]

A Newly appointed minister, dave.

[Duncer]

Doesn't excuse the arrogance, in fact, if anything, it makes it worse.

[humbersloop]

As she had the current gate arrangements installed, I blame maggie thatcher for this whole sorry affair..

but then I still say that about a lot of things..

[tonyav]

Arrogant + Tory = Horse And Carriage imo.

[Duncer]

Whereas I tend to blame Phoney Blair.

[tonyav]

So do I sloopy.

[humbersloop]

yep duncer, each to their own :)

[sunny-dave]

I was (in my defence) playing devil's advocate to quite a significant degree ...

... my dislike of arrogant Tory prats is not exactly unknown on here, but I also have a dislike of jobsworths in (any) uniform.

"The unspeakable insulting the unbearable" to paraphrase Oscar Wilde ...

[Kerosene]

sunny-dave,

"...pissed around by a ridiculous, jobsworth copper"

What, like those brutally murdered in Manchester on Tuesday? No, there IS no difference, they're all Police Officers.

[humbersloop]

^lol @ dave

[EcclesCake]

Liking the OW quote......

[Duncer]

"The unspeakable insulting the unbearable" to paraphrase Oscar Wilde ...

I thought it was "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable" in reference to hunting?