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Kromovaracun
/// (Before I forget: I condemn in the strongest possible terms the craven, vicious attacks on Tasneem Kabir and Paula Castle.) ///
But not the young school girl it seems, which was the whole point of my post.
This poor child's sufferings came short on the tail of a pensioner being murdered, and another young girl attacked while she was just walking down the street, and this is what 'broke the camel's back' for me, so much so that I had to shout out "WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ENGLAND" a perfectly reasonable question to set.
I was not being offensive or rude to anyone, but then just look at the response I got.
It first started with accusations of a racial manner, followed by this post, it was this post that set the course for the way my thread turned out.
/// These instances you detail are all shocking, horrifying even, to any right minded individual. They should be condemned unreservedly, the perpetrators punished. Who would attempt to say otherwise? ///
That is all that needed to be said, but then it went on,
/// But reciting a list of such offences does not, of itself,offer proof of any kind of general cultural decline into a brutish hinterland. unless you can objectively demonstrate that things were better in some other England (And what about Wales, or Scotland, or are they hopelessly beyond redemption?) - An Albion where people were excellent to each other, that such actions rarely or never happened, or that somehow such actions are more vicious than they ever were. ///
Why was I wrong to list those other attacks that had taken place all in one week? But then the poster didn't stop there, obviously taking on board the previous racial jibes, (that incidentally were later removed) he went on to imply that I was offering some proof that there was a general decline into a brutish hinterland all very dramatic I must say, and the rest one can read themselves, ie reference to Scotland, Wales, or are they hopelessly beyond redemption?
/// And you can't. ///
Just those three words are confrontational and unnecessary.
And then further
/// The reality is that there is no Jerusalem - a land bathed in the golden glow of righteousness from which we have strayed through immigration and multiculturalism or banning corporal punishment. Such a vision of the past usually comes from wearing rose-tinted spectacles. ///
Notice the reference to the following: Jerusalem, immigration, multiculturalism, the banning of capital punishment, and then the 'Rose-Tinted Spectacles' jibe, all totally unnecessary and abusive.
I then answered this post thus:
/// Such a vision of the past usually comes from wearing rose-tinted spectacles. :) ///
No such visions comes from living long enough to be able to make comparisons.
No matter how some would wish to ignore the fact, these types of crimes, stabbings and shootings are happening almost on a daily basis.
The rest is history.
For anyone that can be bothered to read all this I hope it goes some way to explain how this thread got high-jacked by some, for their own gratification.
And even if no one reads this at least it has gone down on record, to prove that I wasn't the instigator in all this.