Only the Germans......

[ZedBloke]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950
"It is unthinkable that any sexual act with an animal is punished without proof that the animal has come to any harm," he said, adding that animals are capable of showing what they do, or do not, want to do.

"We see animals as partners and not as a means of gratification. We don't force them to do anything. Animals are much easier to understand than women," Mr Kiok claimed.
Do you find this a little worrying from our Teutonic friends? I suppose I can agree with Mr Kiok's last point though!

[jake-the-peg]

//The law was changed in the UK in 2003, which reduced the maximum sentence from life imprisonment to two years.//

Seriously? it used to be life imprisonment!?!!?

[craft1948]

You could hardly call sex with an animal as consensual could you?

[boxtops]

Why do sheep come to mind... :-)

[jno]

it is worth inquiring why this is a crime. Is it really to protect animals from harm? (The laws go back well before any notion of animal welfare and as the story mentions, the penalty used to be wildly disproportionate to just about anything.) Or is it just the yuk factor involved with any unusual sexual activity?

[Old_Geezer]

I suspect it is yuk factor, plus religious disapproval mainly. Harm (and most consent issues) would only be a factor if 'using' small animals. However I've heard these claims before and it doesn't make it any less distasteful.

[craft1948]

So he knows you then Mick?

[jno]

distasteful maybe, OG, but legislating taste is a tricky business. The idea that it's wrong to carry out sexual acts on your animals, but okay to kill and eat them, is on the face of it a teensy bit illogical. If you actually asked your animals, which would they prefer?

[ummmm]

Lol jno...putting it like that!

[Mick-Talbot]

Animals are much easier to understand than women," Mr Kiok claimed


ZedBloke
I suppose I can agree with Mr Kiok's last point though!



I bet you loved watching Skippy then, head start on the rest of us.

jno
If you actually asked your animals, which would they prefer?



I may never be able to watch Dr Dolittle again.

[Old_Geezer]

They are not citizens in our society so have no right to state a preference. Prey will get eaten whether they like it or not.

[naomi24]

Mr Kiok seems rather confused.

jno, //The idea that it's wrong to carry out sexual acts on your animals, but okay to kill and eat them, is on the face of it a teensy bit illogical.//

That's the bible for you. ;o)

[craft1948]

How did I know religion was going to be dragged into this.............

[Zacs-Master]

Ich bin ien Bearlover

[naomi24]

Craft, perhaps you read OG's earlier post.

//I suspect it is yuk factor, plus religious disapproval mainly.//

I think he's right.

[craft1948]

No sorry Naomi, I didn't read an earlier post.