And Here Come The Next Lot, Just Where Will We Put Them?

[youngmafbog]

Will we see the Bulgarians and Romanians taking over from the Poles?

How will our schools cope let alone out benefits systems that will no doubt be milked.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4742473/Load-of-bul.html

[LoftyLottie]

What about my link AOG. Do you not like that one (about what employers think about foreign workers) ;o)

[Svejk]

When I can get a job I have to work for half the wages I got 10yrs ago. Take inflation into account & I expect its a third to a quarter.
I wonder how many of you who welcome mass immigration have been similarly affected.

[PiedPiper13]

2007. Possibly worse now.

[emmie]

my post at 15,21 or whatever was only reiterating what some on here are saying, that we are lazy, that we don't do the jobs that other nationalities like Poles, Romanians will do, which quite frankly is nonsense.

[Svejk]

And LL, they're not great workers but what they are is,ahem,pliant.
Bad management can treat them in ways they wouldn't dream of treating British workers.

[LoftyLottie]

The taliesin.

Yep. Very much so. No pay rise for my other half in years and years. He is now recently retired, but is working on in another field. It's the way of the world and the whole world economy. How is that anything to do with immigration? Send all the immigrants back and pay all the british workers wages proportional to ten years ago and see what happens?

A lot of us are in the same boat as you.

[LoftyLottie]

Disagree, a lot of them are good workers, working for reputable employers who value them for this fact. And they are not compliant or pushovers.

[ummmm]

It's not nonsense though.

Lottie - Being Catholic there were quite a few Polish children that joined my sons primary school and no extra staff or translators were brought in. They picked up English very quickly.

[jno]

2007. Possibly worse now

Or possibly not. Proof?

[LoftyLottie]

Shan't argue any more Em. But look back at your post, it was just being sarcastic. It proved nothing.

[LoftyLottie]

ummmm. After three months in an English school, people were still talking to Mr LL slowly and carefully. He could understand them perfectly well and wondered why he was getting this treatment. ;o)

[emmie]

a relative who works in construction, and has done since a young person now works with mostly Polish blokes, not because the employer thinks that they are better workers, but because they work for less, share accommodation, costs, and go back home when they have had their fill, which is what he said when i last visited. They are transitory, not always settled, and this could well be problematical with our ageing population.

[PiedPiper13]

Hi jno, proof ??

No idea, just a gut feeling.

I am sure I read somewhere that a lot of East European authorities were on a mission ( so to speak) to send all their petty criminals here.


Oh how I wish I was born in Australia.

[emmie]

LL, because i am sick to my back teeth of being told we are all lazy blighters.

[emmie]

i also have a friend who is a headmistress in a school and she has said that it is problematic, so differing opinions once more.

[Svejk]

LL ' how are falling wages anything to do with immigration'
You are having a laugh.
Any credibility your, frankly, anti- British posts might have had have flown out the window now.

[PiedPiper13]

The idea of sharing accommodation is fine but what about their wives and children. Do they live elsewhere, housing benefit, no council tax, other benefits etc.

[ummmm]

They aren't all married with children.

[emmie]

many have families that live in Poland, so they send their money home.

[LoftyLottie]

Nobody said we are 'all' lazy blighters. But we have unfortunately now got a lazy culture and unfortunately a lot of our kids are now in families that have never known a work culture. It will take a lot to achieve a work ethic based society. I keep saying it, but I firmly believe that the benefits system, which should be a safeguard, has developed into a way of life for a lot of people.