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No Drop In Hiv Among Gays.

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anotheoldgit | 10:50 Fri 01st Feb 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2271468/Risky-sexual-behaviour-blame-NO-drop-HIV-gay-bisexual-men-decade.html

Since those far off days when it was called "The Gay Disease" have not gays and bisexual men still not learned the lesson?
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I blame porn!
MadMen, i've seen that on a video and it looked blooming painful!!!
As long as they keep it amongst themselves then they'll reap what they sow.

Problem is when heterosexual people are getting infected by them, that definitely dont see it as a "badge of honour"

If they insist upon infecting themselves then surely they cant expect to come running to the NHS and expect free treatment, in the same way people are questioning drinking and eating habits costs to the the NHS by what a lot of people see as self inflicted problems

daffy/madmen.

Interesting question........it is usually the woman that ask for it...or...rather want to try it.

Hetero sexual anal sex is quite a different animal from homosexual anal sex......I think.
This thread is probably going to get deleted now. lol
it is usually the woman that ask for it

Absolute rubbish!
Well not for the first time I am utterly shocked at the degree of comments against the gay community by certain members on here.

Daffy i agree with you - why is men are happy to partake in this activity with women but find it so utterly disgusting if two men do it!
No women ever asked me for it and I certainly never asked them!
It's no different!
Ratter, not even the JWs or Catholics? Lol
I'm off to my Club now....
Club?
it looks to me that some people are using this thread and turning into a nasty piece of homophobia

To answer the OP many people gay or not have learned lessons in sexual health, some clearly haven't. I think more education and highlighting the dangers of STD's is needed. You can't force someone to use a condom but but you can tell them about the dangers of not doing so.

I understand there was a report recently about a rise is std's amongst middle aged men and women who are not practicing safe sex, so i think education about this matters is not needed to be focused solely at gay or bisexual men - although i realise that is what the OP is about -
Fluff, the highest rise in STD's are in the over 60's age group as they are no longer practising safe sex as they are no longer at risk of pregnancy.
@FriedGreen
"Well not for the first time I am utterly shocked at the degree of comments against the gay community by certain members on here. "

what utter garbage

there have been no comments against the gay community in this post.
but as usual people like you only see what you want to see and distort and warp to suit.

please point out the comments that in your opinion are "against the gay community"
The short answer to your question AOG - is no.

The problem is a little more comples though - as these cultural issues usually are.

Homosexual men are often more prone to a promiscuous lifestyle - and the law of averages means that this will lead to increased risk and increased infection.

Add to that the unwillingness to use protection, and the problem increases.

Factor in the bilogy involved - the anal passage is not lubricated for sexual activity as the the vagina is, and the delecate membrane tissue is prone to tearing and bleeding, which again facilitates the spread of infection.

It is far too easy to simply treat gay men as a 'section of society' like obese people, smokers and drug addicts who 'bring it on themelves', and 'deserve what they get' and 'don't deserve to waste NHS funds' etc.

I find such a lack of compassion to be deeply distressing. No-one has the right to set themselves above others in terms of behaviour, and to deny anyone the right to medical treatment simply becaause the liefstyle causing their condition is deemed to be unacceptable in certain stratas of society.

The way forward is, and always will be, education, which takes money and resources, and let's face it, you can't go around invading other countires at will and have a decently resoruced and funded health service, so we are stuck with ignorace and guns, until the system changes.

Sadly AOG - in terms of 'living the lesson' - HIV infection will alwyas be something that happens to someone else - gay and bisexual men are prone to the vagiaries of human nature like everyone selse.
Well one has been removed - the continuing use of 'they' and tbh this thread!
@bazwillrun

"there have been no comments against the gay community in this post.
but as usual people like you only see what you want to see and distort and warp to suit. "

you made quite a nasty set of comments in your removed post...
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