Another Excuse For Lawlessness

[Eve]

Seeing this, albeit in the Daily Mail, and more expected, especially on the day of the funeral, do you think this will be jumped upon as another excuse by some to get out and cause trouble:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306165/Margaret-Thatcher-death-parties-The-Lefts-sick-celebration-Brixtons-streets.html

[ummmm]

Mikey - lol - fair enough.

[naomi24]

Gromit, that's not the issue. You've jumped in before reading the posts.

[Sharingan]

It might well be used as an excuse to riot, but when someone's DLA has been cut, their housing benefit cut and they have been forced to move sometimes form a home they have inhabited since childhood you are going to get a very angry response from people who are labelled lazy and told tp ' get a job' when there are no jobs for them to get. It will cost a minimum of £10 million to hold Margaret Thatcher's state funeral, with an estimated additional £4.5 million plus for extra policing, parliament has been recalled at additional expense also and doubtless thw whole thing will cost £20 million or so by the time they have finished. To expect the people who live in communities blighted by her policies not to riot when this is rubbed in their faces is pretty naieve. It's not right but it completely to be expected.

[naomi24]

//It's not right but it completely to be expected. //

No, it's not right - and personally I wouldn't expect people who consider themselves civilised to behave in such a way. There is no excuse - none!

[ummmm]

Agree with Naomi. Under no circumstances should we 'expect' it.

[tonyav]

Mikey, you forgot about the gun carriage.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Tony...my mistake...how on earth could I have it out !

[doctordb]

On the plus side, a summer of socialist revolt will lead to the election of a conservative government. How machiavellian.

[Gromit]

It wasn't just Kent Miners who were illegally prevented from travelling, it was many hundreds from all over the country. I remember my local football team playing a match against a side from a a mining community in Yorkshire, I think it was Frickley. No away supports turned up because the police had stopped them all.

[naomi24]

Gromit, got a link?

[jomifl]

I think £20 million a very reasonable amount to pay for Maggies funeral especially if the money is deducted from the benefits claimed by the rioting antisocial scroungers who weren't even born when Maggie was elected PM. Perhaps they would have riot without a can of beer in their hands.

[ladybirder]

Are the people who are moaning about the cost of Maggie's funeral are quite happy to pay the bill of £???million to police and clear up after the rioters?

[naomi24]

^^ Good thinking.

[Gromit]

£10 million for the funeral is piffle when compared to the cost of importing
45 million tonnes of coal every year.

We can now only mine less than 10% of the coal we need for power stations ourselves. The rest comes mainly from Argentina.

Noami, I cannot find a news link as it was BI (Before Internet). The reports I can find are more person writings such as...

// The police were determined to stop pickets getting to the Notts pits and they set up road blocks, of dubious legality, on the border between Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire. And as far away as the Dartford tunnel. Kent miners were stopped and prevented from travelling north, even though, at a High Court test case later in the year, the use of police road blocks was upheld only if the breach of the peace was thought to be ‘imminent’. This ‘intercept policy’ infuriated local people who resented being stopped, asked questions, and prevented from going freely about their business. For miners the policy had more serious repercussions: many who were stopped at road-blocks insisted on their right to proceed and so were arrested for obstruction. Many had their cars deliberately damaged by vindictive police officers who smashed car windscreens with their truncheons. Others had their cars impounded. //

[Brenden]

And Mr Scargill is occuping his free home (paid for out of union funds) and laughing all the way to the bank.

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// Wouldn't it be a lovely excuse to seize the moral high ground and denounce those nasty left wingers! ///

It is about time they were, the so called racist/fascist/drunken hooligan 'RIGHT-WINGERS', get enough stick from the 'always so innocent' left.

[naomi24]

Gromit, Got a link to that? It means nothing without attribution. Anyone could have written it.

Also, the absence of the football team’s supporters. Did they try to travel with placards? There doesn’t appear to be any real evidence for any of this actually happening, apart from the anecdotal.

[jim360]

Mojo, I don't see why it's so hard to say that there is a difference between: "I didn't like her policies at all and celebrated when she left office so that she couldn't implement her crazy ideas any more" and "I'm so happy at the fact that twenty-three years after it stopped mattering she's dead and I'm going to go out and celebrate that". One is a legitimate political position, the other is not. The parties made sense in 1990. But in 2013 they just do not, because so much time has past since she had a direct influence. It's sad surely even to the Left that they are getting painted as a bunch of tasteless pathetic louts who party over the death of an old woman with dementia. And I think the first people who should care are people who are of that side of politics watching their position turn into parody.

[tiggerblue10]

I concur with Doctordb and Naomi.

[Sharingan]

to Naomi / Ummmm, If we don't 'expect' people to behave badly and not as we would wish on some occasions- would you be so kind as to explain to me why we have the police force and prisons in anticipation for them doing just that? Not everyone behaves in a civilised manner and the ironically named 'civil' unrest is common in deprived areas worldwide, therefore I would have thought it was very much to be expected although clearly not welcomed.