Another Excuse For Lawlessness

[Eve]

Seeing this, albeit in the Daily Mail, and more expected, especially on the day of the funeral, do you think this will be jumped upon as another excuse by some to get out and cause trouble:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306165/Margaret-Thatcher-death-parties-The-Lefts-sick-celebration-Brixtons-streets.html

[jake-the-peg]

Sounds like the Mail (and you?) are desperately hoping that they will.

Wouldn't it be a lovely excuse to seize the moral high ground and denounce those nasty left wingers!

[Eve]

I certainly don't! I got caught up in the riots in Manchester and it was not a pleasant experience.

It made me think of a post on here not long ago about whether there was a feeling of potential trouble in the air, more to do with cuts and such though.

[zebo]

Looking at some of the pictures, not only DM, they look like the sort of pondlife who will drink themselves stupid and smash a few windows given any excuse. Hopefully, they will be stamped upon if they try and disrupt the funeral.

[naomi24]

Jake, //Wouldn't it be a lovely excuse to seize the moral high ground and denounce those nasty left wingers! //

Don't allow your wonkily out-dated political affiliations to tempt you into the immaturely embarrassing position of supporting the fray, Jake. They're idiots, most of whom clearly do not appreciate the crass stupidity of wanton destruction, and most of whom, I would guess, haven’t a clue about Mrs T, winner of three elections. No one forced the electorate into that.

[jim360]

I can to some extent understand people who lived through her time as Prim Minister protesting or celebrating, though I still find it horrible and sad. Seeing people younger than me rejoicing is seeing victims of the worst kind of indoctrination. To hate someone who stopped having an active influence for good or ill before you were born and to rejoice in their death is just wrong and horrifying. Those girls in that picture have no idea, and that makes me sad.

I like the quote at the end, though. Thatcher, apparently, felt she would have the last laugh, that if these protests were to happen, then she knew that at least she mattered. Perhaps the ultimate protest for the left, then, would be to be silent.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

\\Sounds like the Mail (and you?) are desperately hoping that they will.

Wouldn't it be a lovely excuse to seize the moral high ground and denounce those nasty left wingers!\\
Slow clap sir. Well said.

[jim360]

Everyone should be trying to condemn the "nasty left wingers". Particularly the nice left wingers. I' sure there are plenty of those. I'm not sure which wing I stand on, but it's certainly not the one that thinks it's right to do this. Will the real nice left wingers please stand up?

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

jim I have never passed my thoughts about her to anyone in my life. I'm not a particularly political person.
What's making me angry is this sudden mentality that because she died we should all suddenly be nice about her.
I have one word to say about that.
No.

[FredPuli43]

We're not being asked to be nice about her. But, as various important Labour figures, Tony Blair among them, have said we should not be celebrating her passing either.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

That's as maybe Fred but it seems you're not allowed to give a dissenting view without being accused of just that.
I'm not celebrating but I'm certainly not mourning either.

[emmie]

my view is there will be trouble, i will be staying put that day. irrespective of whatever one thinks of her there is no need for the sheer level of hatred that has been espoused by some, many of whom don't seem to be old enough to vote let alone been affected by anything she might or might not have caused. And as been pointed out three terms in office, so someone must have been voting for her.

[Gromit]

On my 'Summer Riots' thread last weekend I said the conditions were right for more riots.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1231307.html

I predicted this would happen when the weather warmed up, but that was before Thatcher's funeral date was set. We could have trouble sooner than I anticipated.

[sandyRoe]

Does anyone remember what law was used during the miners strike to stop people travelling, say from the Kent coalfields, to join picket lines in other areas?

[mushroom25]

sandy, are you saying that because kent miners were denied their right to protest in 1985, that it would now be quite in order to go and kick store windows in and loot them?

[sandyRoe]

No, I'm not. I was just wondering what law was used to stop people travelling about their lawful business.

[Gromit]

Sandyroe,

If my memory serves me right, the travelling miners were illegally stopped and detained. Their minibuses were stopped and the police would claim they had a bald tyre or other mechanical defect. If the strikers pointed out that the minibus had been MOTed the week before that was ignored. Then they were released eight hours later without charge. There was and is no law to stp free movement of persons.

[ummmm]

//do you think this will be jumped upon as another excuse by some to get out and cause trouble: //

Yes, and the ones set out to cause trouble probably don't know the name of our Prime Minister.

[Canary42]

There is bound to be trouble. The agent provocateurs from the Tory Dirty Tricks Organisation will see to that, so that they can make political capital out of it, and divert attention away from the terrible mess they have got the economy into.

[boxtops]

What seemed ironic to me when I saw these reports across several newspapers yesterday was the average age of the protestors - most of them weren't even born when Thatcher was PM. One was quoted as saying "when I was growing up her policies affected our family and how we could feed ourselves, blah blah " - he would have been three years old when she left office.

[ummmm]

If they are into politics and their opinion is well researched. Fair enough. If they have formed their opinion from listening to their parents grumble at the TV they really should shut up.