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So It's Perfectly In Order For Him To Use The 'n' Word Is It?
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AOG
Those were the ancient Britons.
Also, you have mentioned before that you don't understand why the shortened term for Pakistani was offensive, but the B word wasn't.
Thought that ground had already been (extensively) covered.
However, as you find the B word offensive, I, and I hope all other AB contributors will respect your point of view and refrain from calling you a B.
Those were the ancient Britons.
Also, you have mentioned before that you don't understand why the shortened term for Pakistani was offensive, but the B word wasn't.
Thought that ground had already been (extensively) covered.
However, as you find the B word offensive, I, and I hope all other AB contributors will respect your point of view and refrain from calling you a B.
AOG - being free to take offence is one of the enshrined rights of our democracy.
Whether or not anyone is taking that right to extremes is the point we appear to be debating here.
I cannot imagine that anyone wil use the word 'Brit' when referring to you personally, but if you choose to be offended - then go right ahead, who could complain?
Whether or not anyone is taking that right to extremes is the point we appear to be debating here.
I cannot imagine that anyone wil use the word 'Brit' when referring to you personally, but if you choose to be offended - then go right ahead, who could complain?
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sp1814
/// You could do the same with Sarah Millican. She can take the mickey out of single overweight girls, but if you gave the same routine to a male comic, it would suddenly sound...wrong. ///
Not only sound wrong but quickly seized on by the female fraternity.
How many times do we witness female comedians taking the rise out of males but if the roles were reversed?
Take the commercials, the male is often characterised as the lazy, can't knock two nails in etc etc. and how often in the soaps do we see the female characters lash out with their fists against the males, if it happened in reverse it would be used to promote some help line at the end of the programme.
/// You could do the same with Sarah Millican. She can take the mickey out of single overweight girls, but if you gave the same routine to a male comic, it would suddenly sound...wrong. ///
Not only sound wrong but quickly seized on by the female fraternity.
How many times do we witness female comedians taking the rise out of males but if the roles were reversed?
Take the commercials, the male is often characterised as the lazy, can't knock two nails in etc etc. and how often in the soaps do we see the female characters lash out with their fists against the males, if it happened in reverse it would be used to promote some help line at the end of the programme.
"...how often in the soaps do we see the female characters lash out with their fists against the males, if it happened in reverse it would be used to promote some help line at the end of the programme."
I am by no means a regular soap watcher, but in my experience, any social issue raised which may have an imact on the lives of viewers, for which help is available, is trailed at the end of the episode - it is not limited on a gender basis, or ever has been.
I am by no means a regular soap watcher, but in my experience, any social issue raised which may have an imact on the lives of viewers, for which help is available, is trailed at the end of the episode - it is not limited on a gender basis, or ever has been.
I suppose anyone can decide to arbitrarily take offence at any old word they choose, but it would be difficult to enforce.
Other words, such as the one in question from the OP though- have the force and weight of the perjorative use and association with slavery and abuse.
Now, if you could demonstrate that the word "Brit" had the same connotation , then you might get some agreement.
And the same applies with the anti-male bias that you might see in the adverts.If you could show that men had been denied the vote, for instance, or typically earned significantly less for doing the same job as a female, then you might have a basis to feel aggrieved. Otherwise, one just shrugs it off, and makes a point of erecting shelves that will withstand a nuclear holocaust, but which are more importantly level... :)
Other words, such as the one in question from the OP though- have the force and weight of the perjorative use and association with slavery and abuse.
Now, if you could demonstrate that the word "Brit" had the same connotation , then you might get some agreement.
And the same applies with the anti-male bias that you might see in the adverts.If you could show that men had been denied the vote, for instance, or typically earned significantly less for doing the same job as a female, then you might have a basis to feel aggrieved. Otherwise, one just shrugs it off, and makes a point of erecting shelves that will withstand a nuclear holocaust, but which are more importantly level... :)
FredPuli43
/// Aog, you surpass yourself. ///
/// OG for AOG is one 'typo' I hope not to make. You may think "If the cap fits, wear it" or that you are the target of every criticism, but I couldn't possibly comment. ///
"OG for AOG" What are you going on about?
If you can't think of more abuse to come out with, please do not make such things up.
/// Aog, you surpass yourself. ///
/// OG for AOG is one 'typo' I hope not to make. You may think "If the cap fits, wear it" or that you are the target of every criticism, but I couldn't possibly comment. ///
"OG for AOG" What are you going on about?
If you can't think of more abuse to come out with, please do not make such things up.
Not only sound wrong but quickly seized on by the female fraternity.
So you agree then?
There are comedians such as Sarah Millican and Jackie Mason, and Chris Tucker/Rock/RDH who can tell jokes using pejorative terms about themselves, but put into the mouths of others it would sound wrong?
That being the case, why did you ask the question about RDH in the first place?
Or are you starting a brand new thread mid-stream, this one about female comedians?
And by the way, if you watch male comedians on (say) Live At The Apollo, they certainly do not hold back on taking the mickey out of women.
Russell Howard immediately springs to mind.
So you agree then?
There are comedians such as Sarah Millican and Jackie Mason, and Chris Tucker/Rock/RDH who can tell jokes using pejorative terms about themselves, but put into the mouths of others it would sound wrong?
That being the case, why did you ask the question about RDH in the first place?
Or are you starting a brand new thread mid-stream, this one about female comedians?
And by the way, if you watch male comedians on (say) Live At The Apollo, they certainly do not hold back on taking the mickey out of women.
Russell Howard immediately springs to mind.
LazyGun
/// Other words, such as the one in question from the OP though- have the force and weight of the perjorative use and association with slavery and abuse. ///
/// Now, if you could demonstrate that the word "Brit" had the same connotation , then you might get some agreement. ///
It happened but we don't continuously go on about it.
/// From before Roman times, the practice of slavery was normal in Britannia. Slaves were routinely exported. Slavery continued as an accepted part of society under the Roman Empire and after; Anglo-Saxons continued the slave system, sometimes in league with Norse traders often selling slaves to the Irish.
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/// Other words, such as the one in question from the OP though- have the force and weight of the perjorative use and association with slavery and abuse. ///
/// Now, if you could demonstrate that the word "Brit" had the same connotation , then you might get some agreement. ///
It happened but we don't continuously go on about it.
/// From before Roman times, the practice of slavery was normal in Britannia. Slaves were routinely exported. Slavery continued as an accepted part of society under the Roman Empire and after; Anglo-Saxons continued the slave system, sometimes in league with Norse traders often selling slaves to the Irish.
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aog - I can't think you are seriously looking for a parallel between the slavery practised in Anglo-Saxon times, and the slavery of the last century.
Because the slavery of the last century has led to the perception of an entire ethnic genus being viewed as second-class citizens, as the norm.
I don't thnk that quite happens with Saxons and Celts - do you?
Because the slavery of the last century has led to the perception of an entire ethnic genus being viewed as second-class citizens, as the norm.
I don't thnk that quite happens with Saxons and Celts - do you?
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