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anotheoldgit | 12:34 Tue 28th May 2013 | News
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/27/york-mosque-protest-tea-biscuits

/// Leanne Staven, who had come for the protest, said that she had not come to the mosque to cause trouble but because "We need a voice". "I think white British who have any concerns feel we can't speak freely," she said. ///

This I agree with, "we need a voice" and who else is there for us but the EDL, whether you agree with their politics or how they go about things?

Nice to see some Muslims are prepared to speak out at last against their radical fellow Muslims.

/// Ismail Miah, president of York mosque, added: "Under the banner of Islam there are very different politics: democratic politics, the far right, left, central, all over. You can't target a whole community for what one or two people have done. ///

But I am afraid Mr Miah there are many more than just two, who have carried out Murders, Bombings and other acts of Terrorism on our streets, so unfortunately as is always the case, the majority must suffer for the acts of the minority.
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It's just the same as the way in which homophobes and misogynists and are denied a voice too!

Where are the people ready to stand up for the rights of the intolerant?
Well, IF, I ever felt that I needed a voice to speak for me then EDL certainly wouldn't be my first choice! They do not even remotely represent my view on anything.
Echo triggs!
some on the left seem to brook no idea that one can have a different viewpoint, without using the racism card. If i voice an opinion that doesn't accord with some either on AB or outside i would be roundly castigated.
So why should we tolerate these misogynists, men who would cast women and women's rights back to the stone age.
bigger sigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!
they wouldn't speak for me either.
daffy

what's Meryl Streep doing there ?
I always find it odd how the left seem to favour on the side of Islam, even though it represents everything that leftism is against!

It must be a real battle of conscience being socialist in the UK right now.
She is quite clearly facepalming bazile, Google it if you have no idea what that means.
bazile, head in hands....
"I always find it odd how the left seem to favour on the side of Islam, even though it represents everything that leftism is against! "

That's kind of the point the York mosque is trying to counter. They say that Islam hosts political views of all kinds - extreme right, far left, and everything in between.

As I said on Jake's thread, I believe religion is an enemy of human progress. But it's just not as simple as muslim = bad.

I also find it rather uninspiring how 5,000 Muslims meet in the capital - and for some it's hardly any/not enough; Muslim Council of GB condemns the attack - it's not representative; York Mosque comes out against extremism - they're just a minority.

It's difficult to know what would appease those who are unable to see that the Muslim community harbours people other than terrorists.
Treble sigh.

"This I agree with, "we need a voice" and who else is there for us but the EDL, whether you agree with their politics or how they go about things?"

Who else?

UKIP and the BNP immediately spring to mind.

There's also British People's Party and the British Democratic Party
its because ordinary people who have no political affiliations, are not being listened to, their concerns.
i posted a good photo from today's mail, or people coming together, sadly it's because of Lee Rigby's death they did so, perhaps if they did this more often, for no reason than wishing to be friends, integrate in one another's community perhaps we wouldn't see such groups as EDL exist.
'I also find it rather uninspiring how 5,000 Muslims meet in the capital - and for some it's hardly any/not enough; Muslim Council of GB condemns the attack - it's not representative; York Mosque comes out against extremism - they're just a minority.

It's difficult to know what would appease those who are unable to see that the Muslim community harbours people other than terrorists.'

^^^ Amen to that Krom!
"the majority must suffer for the acts of the minority"


Unless it is the EDL of course.....
the only way we knew that 5,000 Muslims had met was via sp's post i think.. reported in a Belfast newspaper? it was held in a Mosque in Morden, which holds 10,000. if it's an informal gathering, one to offer specific prayers, only those attending would know it happened.
Did you see any info anywhere else about it because i haven't, we would have remained ignorant of it had sp not posted on it, so you can't applaud an action if you don't know it happened, perhaps that does or does not make sense...

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