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Anyone Agree With Vinnie?
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I think he does have some points and lets face it our weather is awful
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I think he does have some points and lets face it our weather is awful
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Based on his playing style, i would suggest that 'Vinnie' is short for vindictive!
Really, the opinion of one ex-pat is no more or less valid than that of any other ex-pat. if people emmigrate, it's because life in another country offers them more of the life choices they wish to receive - and that applies to Vinnie in the States as much as it does to anyone moving here.
Our weather is a matter of indifference to me - but i would enjoy the sun of California, and were it not for family commitments, i would like to live there, but that has nothing to do with the changing population here - that has gone on since Man existed, and always will.
Really, the opinion of one ex-pat is no more or less valid than that of any other ex-pat. if people emmigrate, it's because life in another country offers them more of the life choices they wish to receive - and that applies to Vinnie in the States as much as it does to anyone moving here.
Our weather is a matter of indifference to me - but i would enjoy the sun of California, and were it not for family commitments, i would like to live there, but that has nothing to do with the changing population here - that has gone on since Man existed, and always will.
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Octavius.......difficult to put a finger on it as it was so insidious.......I suppose one is speaking broadly and not about a specific topic and also what one means by "going downhill."
The 50's were completely different from the present time...as were the 60's and 70's so I suppose one would have to say the change from my point of view started in the late 70's and seem to have progresses downhill.
Just my opinion Octavius and remember I am not sure what i mean by £going downhill"......perhaps I mean a less desirable place to live.
The 50's were completely different from the present time...as were the 60's and 70's so I suppose one would have to say the change from my point of view started in the late 70's and seem to have progresses downhill.
Just my opinion Octavius and remember I am not sure what i mean by £going downhill"......perhaps I mean a less desirable place to live.
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All that doom and gloom despite the fact that average take-home wages have increased since the late 70s in real terms? And that's not just due to the monster incomes paid to bankers and footballers either. Overall our standards of living have improved since then, and if poor people these days are unhappy with a lot that includes such luxuries as Sky TV or high-speed Internet, that is a reflection of how standards have risen.
We are better off now, in general, than we were then.
We are better off now, in general, than we were then.
I'm with triggerhappy - it depends on where you grew up. I have read that parts of the country have changed tremendously, but I'm only hearing that second hand.
Where I grew up (South London), it looks exactly the same now as it did in 1975...but with more phone shops and nail bars.
Sqad - the problem with taking someone's recollection of the 50s is that it's so subjective.
Your recollection of a golden age may be at odds with someone, for whom the 50s were not such a good time (single pregnant women, gays, immigrants, women with violent husbands, professional women, working class kids looking for social advancement, kids in certain Catholic institutions etc..)
Where I grew up (South London), it looks exactly the same now as it did in 1975...but with more phone shops and nail bars.
Sqad - the problem with taking someone's recollection of the 50s is that it's so subjective.
Your recollection of a golden age may be at odds with someone, for whom the 50s were not such a good time (single pregnant women, gays, immigrants, women with violent husbands, professional women, working class kids looking for social advancement, kids in certain Catholic institutions etc..)
Octavius
\\\Fair enough sqad, seems to coincide with the winter of discontent and the new Thatcher governement\\\
Yes, I cannot argue with that, but in the early 70's the Consultants were doing well in Private practice, making money because the NHS was showing signs of imploding, but, on the horizon, Labour had someone who injected fear into the right wing doctors.......Neil Kinnock.
Intelligent, charismatic, left wing and determined to bring private medical practice to a halt. A different type of Labour leader and a woman who was going to kick the Private doctors out of the NHS........Barbara Castle.
There was panic in the mid 70's among the Private Doctors and meetings were held throughout the UK and with the help of banks, Private medicine, hitherto a" rag and bag" organisation, suddenly had to pull it's finger out to survive.
This it did and Neil Kinnock lost the election.
I am not sure what this has to do with the OP.....LOL
\\\Fair enough sqad, seems to coincide with the winter of discontent and the new Thatcher governement\\\
Yes, I cannot argue with that, but in the early 70's the Consultants were doing well in Private practice, making money because the NHS was showing signs of imploding, but, on the horizon, Labour had someone who injected fear into the right wing doctors.......Neil Kinnock.
Intelligent, charismatic, left wing and determined to bring private medical practice to a halt. A different type of Labour leader and a woman who was going to kick the Private doctors out of the NHS........Barbara Castle.
There was panic in the mid 70's among the Private Doctors and meetings were held throughout the UK and with the help of banks, Private medicine, hitherto a" rag and bag" organisation, suddenly had to pull it's finger out to survive.
This it did and Neil Kinnock lost the election.
I am not sure what this has to do with the OP.....LOL
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It is interesting that people's perceptions of a deterioration from an ideal tend to coincide with their own life-stages.
Also, as a sample of one, a perception that a country has deteriorated is hardly surprising from someone who has moved away.
What do people expect Vinnie to say? "
"I think the UK is getting better and is certainly better than La-La Land but oddly enough I've gone ahead and moved my entire family to California!"
Also, as a sample of one, a perception that a country has deteriorated is hardly surprising from someone who has moved away.
What do people expect Vinnie to say? "
"I think the UK is getting better and is certainly better than La-La Land but oddly enough I've gone ahead and moved my entire family to California!"
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