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Anyone Agree With Vinnie?
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I think he does have some points and lets face it our weather is awful
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It was never perfect, not in any decade. The early 50's had rationing. The 60's I remember a lot of racism in the north. The 70's had strikes, terrorism and was quite austere. And so on.
I think social behaviour has worsened and that annoys me more than most things. Kids bang on about being entitled to "respect" but don't have any. People are so focussed on their mobiles that they have lost (as a university professor suggested to me) their sense of "place".
I think social behaviour has worsened and that annoys me more than most things. Kids bang on about being entitled to "respect" but don't have any. People are so focussed on their mobiles that they have lost (as a university professor suggested to me) their sense of "place".
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I agree about people (especially in cities) being more insular.
I notice it on those rare occasions when I go into the country. My partner is from a tiny village in Berkshire (think 'Miss Marple set and you're on the right lines), and the first few times I went there, I found it really strange when complete strangers would smile and say, "Hello".
I have literally never done that growing up in South London.
I agree about people (especially in cities) being more insular.
I notice it on those rare occasions when I go into the country. My partner is from a tiny village in Berkshire (think 'Miss Marple set and you're on the right lines), and the first few times I went there, I found it really strange when complete strangers would smile and say, "Hello".
I have literally never done that growing up in South London.
"Actor and ex-footballer Vinnie Jones has said he would never return to England... "
I should have stopped there with the good news :-)
"...because immigration has transformed his former home into a unrecognisable country."
That's the irony bit ...
And it's downhill all the way after that.
He's certainly got some points. Sadly they're all (searches for polite word) ... silly
I should have stopped there with the good news :-)
"...because immigration has transformed his former home into a unrecognisable country."
That's the irony bit ...
And it's downhill all the way after that.
He's certainly got some points. Sadly they're all (searches for polite word) ... silly
you are deluded if you think the 50's were a golden age, rationing for one thing, massive bombing campaigns by the Luftwaffe put paid to much, London didn't really start rebuilding many areas until well into the sixties, we had outside an loo, freezing cold and full of spiders, yuck, and no heating apart from the smoky fireplaces.
come on it was not rosy, and the thing is whilst some things have improved, sanitation for one, and decent heating, hot water systems, much has not. And the poor have claimed the capital, we have more refugees and asylum seekers in our borough and London than the rest of the country. It's also true we may have many rich, but many don't actully live here, they own the large properties as investments, and the councils are trying to address that, but but its become a place of either poor, or up market rich, the middle ground people who middle incomes are having to move out because they can't afford to live here, with rents/council tax and living costs thrown in.
sp the heygate is the most atrocious dump, and there are plenty more estates like it. Sadly much of the housing now being built for the capital is not remotely affordable, irrespective of what the idiot politicians say.
come on it was not rosy, and the thing is whilst some things have improved, sanitation for one, and decent heating, hot water systems, much has not. And the poor have claimed the capital, we have more refugees and asylum seekers in our borough and London than the rest of the country. It's also true we may have many rich, but many don't actully live here, they own the large properties as investments, and the councils are trying to address that, but but its become a place of either poor, or up market rich, the middle ground people who middle incomes are having to move out because they can't afford to live here, with rents/council tax and living costs thrown in.
sp the heygate is the most atrocious dump, and there are plenty more estates like it. Sadly much of the housing now being built for the capital is not remotely affordable, irrespective of what the idiot politicians say.
"Vinnie Jones says that he has no intention of returned home" ...well that is good news anyway.
What I don't understand is, if living with so many foreigners is so distasteful to people like Jones, why do they disappear off to countries where everybody is a foreigner ? Some of the posters here on AB live abroad, because they don't like foreigners in Britain !
I have a sister-in-law who went to Spain once but didn't like it because there were "so many foreigners there"
Xenophobia seems to follow some people wherever they go in the world.
What I don't understand is, if living with so many foreigners is so distasteful to people like Jones, why do they disappear off to countries where everybody is a foreigner ? Some of the posters here on AB live abroad, because they don't like foreigners in Britain !
I have a sister-in-law who went to Spain once but didn't like it because there were "so many foreigners there"
Xenophobia seems to follow some people wherever they go in the world.
"Areas of this country have become unrecognisable as the country some of us grew up in."
Yes, but thats just life and time moves on. My dad used to say the same about his little village in Ireland where he gew up. Year on year something would change for better or worse and he would reminisce. To us, his children, it was an idyllic place where dreams and memories were created. We now go back and talk of all the changes. You can't expect the world to standstill just for your personal nostalgia.
Yes, but thats just life and time moves on. My dad used to say the same about his little village in Ireland where he gew up. Year on year something would change for better or worse and he would reminisce. To us, his children, it was an idyllic place where dreams and memories were created. We now go back and talk of all the changes. You can't expect the world to standstill just for your personal nostalgia.
Vinnie Jones is just another ex-pat making excuses for why he doesn't live here any more.
He's living in a city where the largest ethnic population is of Mexican descent and claiming he doesn't live in Britain any more because it's too 'European'
In reality he's almost certainly there for the climate and for tax purposes and is justifying this by disguising his self-interest with a thin veneer of rather dubious politics.
He's living in a city where the largest ethnic population is of Mexican descent and claiming he doesn't live in Britain any more because it's too 'European'
In reality he's almost certainly there for the climate and for tax purposes and is justifying this by disguising his self-interest with a thin veneer of rather dubious politics.
Another big problem affecting much of the country is the lack of social housing.
Private rents in London are staggering, and the cost of most flats are outstripping earnings.
When I bought my first flat, I paid £55,000 when my salary was about £20,000.
Now you have people on not much more, looking at flats that cost £250,000. It's madness.
Private rents in London are staggering, and the cost of most flats are outstripping earnings.
When I bought my first flat, I paid £55,000 when my salary was about £20,000.
Now you have people on not much more, looking at flats that cost £250,000. It's madness.
Naomi, it has, and
sp you are talking of more than 250k are that is not even remotely in the centre of town. I can't remember the exact figures, it was a quick snippet on the news but it gave the figures that if you wished to buy a one bed property in the capital you would need to be earning in excess of 40k, and two bed property over 50k per annum. three local privately built homes are being sold at over two million a piece, absurd. They are still empty after almost two years...
sp you are talking of more than 250k are that is not even remotely in the centre of town. I can't remember the exact figures, it was a quick snippet on the news but it gave the figures that if you wished to buy a one bed property in the capital you would need to be earning in excess of 40k, and two bed property over 50k per annum. three local privately built homes are being sold at over two million a piece, absurd. They are still empty after almost two years...
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