The Niqab Rears It's Ugly Head Once Again.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416632/Muslim-students-banned-wearing-niqab-Birmingham-Met-college-security-reasons.html

Was this college right to make this ruling?

/// Imaani Ali, 17, believes the ban on veils is a breach of her freedom ///

There are many things in life that breach our 'FREEDOM' Imaani Ali, they are mainly called 'RULES'.

[Brancaster]

Couldn't agree more Baz

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// the Mail uses the word "security" in its headline but the college has not. They just talk about providing a "safe and welcoming environment". They give no reason why a niqab might be unsafe. ///

All of the following and all appertaining to security.

/// 'All prospective and progressing students, as well as staff, have been advised of the policy, which will mean everyone allowed on the premises can understand and know each other in a safe environment.' ///

/// Anna Dorj, 18, who is studying business, said: 'I believe it is good for security. You can’t see their face and it is hard to communicate with them.' ///

/// Judge Peter Murphy said the principle of open justice overrode her beliefs, and warned there was a risk a different person could go into the dock pretending to be her. ///

[Bazile]

for the avoidance of doubt , which ' baz' are you agreeing with ?

[petal54]

each country has some kind of 'dress code',we should follow that when we go places,and follow ours here

[Zeuhl]

It's not a 'dress code'

Covering the arms or legs is a 'dress code'
wearing a head scarf or hat is a 'dress code'

Concealing one's face from others is more fundamental than that

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// sp1814, it's true, I never quite know which anti-niqab thread I'm on. ///

You are not wearing one are you jno, because If you read the reports then you would not fail to know which anti-Niqab thread you are on.

But I will help you out, this one is about Birmingham Metropolitan College banning a Muslim student from wearing a Niqab.

The one previous was about some MPs who have tabled a bill making it illegal to wear "face coverings" in public.

[jno]

aog, I repeat, the college has not used the word "security".

[jno]

aog, there was also the one about the judge. And a few about the French. I will leave you to recall if you started any of them yourself.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// aog, there was also the one about the judge. And a few about the French. I will leave you to recall if you started any of them yourself. ///

makes little difference whether or not I started them, but it seems obvious now that you no longer can't tell which thread you are on, well done.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// aog, I repeat, the college has not used the word "security". ///

Maybe not in those very words but most of us can work out that "the safety for their students" is about making them secure from harm, hence security.

[Peter Pedant]

well even Senator Kennedy sent someone in to do his French exam for him - but I dont think he was wearing a burqa - either one that is

schools and college are allowed to make their own rules

one further education college you could get suspended for calling someone else a terrorist.

[Peter Pedant]

No aog - of the examples you give

the one on identity is relevant to identity and not security
unless you say you wanna be secure about her identity

[boxtops]

There's one of AOG's threads with exactly the same title, in the Related Posts threads from six ears ago.

[Gromit]

^^^

Maybe, like when comedians or pop stars get past their sell by date, we are getting reissues of the 'best of' AOG.

[Gromit]

It would seem that 'Ugly Head' is AOGs catchphrase...

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/search/?q1=Anotheoldgit+%2B+Ugly+head

[Zeuhl]

^
His compilation 'Gangs of savages roam the streetss' has a peculiarly repetitive beat

For more of a Bhangra vibe there's always 'paedophile gangs groom white girls'

[Zeuhl]

/It would seem that 'Ugly Head' is AOGs catchphrase/

I wonder why ......

A new nickname for him perhaps? lol

[Gromit]

'Paedophile gangs groom white girls' has got to be worth a MOBO award.

[sp1814]

No AOG...

Wasn't thinking of that.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question362219.html

[pixie373]

Aog can make his point however he likes, surely? And however often. I wasn't here 6 years ago, so wouldn't remember the previous thread.
I don't think it is a "freedom" to wear a veil. Just the opposite really. And is far more aggressive and fundamental, than fashion sense.