The Saga Of The Veil, Continued

[LazyGun]

Further to AoGs recent post on wearing the Niqab at Birmingham Metropolitan University
(thread here)

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1274865.html

and another thread on the Muslim woman ordered by the judge to remove her veil, which I believe had a thread here also, although I cannot find it - it now appears that Birmingham Metropolitan University have now reversed themselves and will allow personal items of religious significance after all. Is this a humiliating climbdown, as described, or a sensible response to a protest against what some might have described as a draconian measure?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birmingham-metropolitan-college-drops-controversial-5921560

In that Birmingham Mail article, it also goes on to say that the judge who ordered the woman to remove her veil has also reversed himself and relented. This was also covered in the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/12/judge-allows-muslim-woman-wear-niqab

Again, sensible response or cowardly climbdown?

[ichkeria]

"actually Muslim women do claim to wear the veil because of its perceived practicality – it protects them from the ever- licentious male gaze and from man's alleged uncontrollable urges "

But that isn't an issue of practicality. Practicality is being able to cross a cattle grid in heels that will prevent you slipping between the bars :-)

[emmie]

i have to admit if i saw someone wearing a Darth Vader costume coming my way i would be heading in the opposite direction, fast.

[emmie]

the cattle do it with no problem and their little hooves can be mighty slippy

[naomi24]

Oh, it's very practical - no temptation there. ;o)

[ichkeria]

I don't think so emmie. That would be a pretty useless cattle grid!

[emmie]

actually i have seen them fall on cattle grids, trying to get through one piece of farm land to another, and wham over they went, it wasn't really funny, just strange. Then another lot got out of the farmers field and rampaged straight through the caravan park nearby, over the cattle grid and road, havoc they caused...

[emmie]

nothing to do with the post, perhaps it's because it's a touchy subject, and one i am sure will come up again and again.

[Zeuhl]

/Zeuhl only wears it to fend all the women off. ;o) /

Quite the reverse - they love the husky voice and the big shiny helmet

[naomi24]

Haaaaaa! TMI. :o)

[ck1]

Sorry Zeuhl, my mistake!!

[LazyGun]

Good article on this issue, I think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10308793/Civilised-society-must-not-draw-a-veil-over-the-niqab.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

I don't think the word veil should be used to describe the niqab, which is an opaque piece of cloth made possibly out of sacking. To describe the niqab as a veil is an insult to the real veils which we see in this country at weddings and formal funerals. These are translucent and, as every man knows, rather sexy.

[anotheoldgit]

Could it be the men are joining their ranks?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/15/article-2420887-1BD31B94000005DC-882_306x423.jpg

And the women are revolting? (take that either way, according to your individual choice) [NOTE: may not be safe for work - Ed]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/15/article-0-1BD31B5D000005DC-373_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/15/article-0-1BD249F6000005DC-255_306x423.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420887/Its-onesie-nonesie-Balaclava-babygros-netted-bodysuits--London-Fashion-Week-daft-ever.html

[naomi24]

LG, good article - and precisely what I've been saying.

[anotheoldgit]

There has been a Government petition started over this and at the moment 5,563 have signed it, and it doesn't close till 20/12/13.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43313

[vetuste_ennemi]

Your petition is about the burkah, AOG, which is a sack covering the whole body. The Naqib is a cloth covering the face only.

[anotheoldgit]

vetuste_ennemi

/// Your petition is about the burkah, AOG, which is a sack covering the whole body. The Naqib is a cloth covering the face only. ///

It matters not they are both ridiculous, and should be banned in this country especially in courts of law.

One judge has even banned them in his court in Pakistan.

Further reading on the subject.

http://noburka.blogspot.co.uk/

[whiskeryron]

// I dont think that citizens of a country that lets people walk about with obscene messages on tee-shirts, and hoodies used to hide criminals, and men with no shirts and beer bellies is in any position to lecture other cultures about their dress code! //

We live in this country & if we wish to walk about with no shirts & a beer belly or with a hood on that is our prerogative ,OUR FACES are for all to see. If these women wish to live amongst us then they should not be allowed to dress in such a way that they offend our way of life. One of the things that we have always been used to is seeing someones facial expressions when we communicate with them. Once & for all let us stop this nonsense & legislate to make it legal for ALL to show their face in public.