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At Last Labour Speak Out About Immigration

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VHG | 16:04 Sun 22nd Sep 2013 | News
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After decades of all the parties being scared to utter a word about immigration at last we now have a party leader who is willing to talk about it.

"Curbs on non-EU immigration will be a key priority for an incoming Labour government", said Ed Miliband on the BBC's Andrew Marr show.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24193771

There are those of us on AB who have been shouting this for years.

Low skilled immigrants, who cant speak English, don't want to integrate, and are happy to milk the benefit system for all its worth. Many of them offer nothing to this country.

There are areas of Birmingham near where I live (Sparkhill and Small Heath for example) that are virtually 100% Asian. They have been turned from poor but fairly nice suburbs of Birmingham into sh*t holes in the last 30 years as the Asians have arrived the whites have left.

If any of you went through these areas you may believe you have wandered into Pakistan or a suburb of Calcutta, with the rubbish everywhere. 30% of cars in these areas are not insured.

I find it so upsetting to drive through these areas I find other ways to drive into central Birmingham, even though one area is on a direct route into the city for me.

Hopefully all the parties will at last realise the damage unrestricted immigration has done and will start to discuss it as part of their policies.
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"Curbs on non-EU immigration will be a key priority for an incoming Labour government", said Ed Miliband on the BBC's Andrew Marr show."

No shortage of subtext there: - "We are prepared to scrape the bottom of the very ickiest barrel of political promises in order to score votes from the kind of people who would otherwise vote UKIP."

bazwillrun

No...you don't understand what I've written.

Let me explain...

AOG thinks that second and third gen Britons speak with the same accents as their parents and grandparents. This isn't true. Someone like Dizzee or Tinie has an accent which is closer to Plan B or Professor Green.

People tend to adopt the accents of their peers rather than their parents.

Dizzee doesn't have a West Indian accent like his grandparents. Whether his accent changes is moot.
sp1814: //Birmingham has always been the u-bend of England. //

TonyAV: //What do you mean by that, sp1814 ?. //

how about you start here Tony, then work forwards.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaky_Blinders
So many people from Birmingham claim that it used to be so lovely.

It didn't.

Minging.

Almost as bad as the Gorbals.
Actually...let me clarify - not all of Birmingham...there MUST be nice areas...it's just I never found any.

And that accent.

That...accent.
Did not look very far then.
Not all people who there have a Birmingham accent. Even those who were born there.
Just stop the generalisations.
Racialist rubbish VHG. Although I'm not a brummie, I walked through Sparkbrook to the Bullring in 1969 and onwards for a few years. One of my (white) relatives lived nearby in a quite well-to-do (whites-only) area. Sparkbrook was the absolute pits then - inhabited by whites and some coloured. How do you know they are low-skilled and can't speak english. One of the reasons these ghettoes arise is because racialist whites won't sell or rent houses to coloured people.
As a labour supporter I am disgusted with Millibrand. We need immigrants in order to do the jobs which are "below" the scrounging Brits. Immigrants keep the NHS alive!
SIQ.
SP1814.

Are you serious? You denigrate an accent whilst railing against intolerance?

Wow. Just wow.
Nope - I can't stand the Brummie accent, but that doesn't impact on what I think IOC Brummies - such as my ex whom I dated for a couple of years.

I can't stand that accent, as well as the Bristol accent.

I also hate the Essex accent, and LOVE Northern Irish, Manchester and Edinburgh accent.

Nothing to do with the people...

And I don't judge people by their accents. VHG is judging people by their skin colour.

That to me is intolerance.

Major difference.
In that case, according to your logic, I could hypothetically say I hate the Jamaican/Asian/pick a foreigner accent and you'd be fine with that? Don't think so.
voulezvous

Of course you could!

Absolutely.

But because you're not a bigot or an idiot, you could tell the difference between disliking an accent and disliking someone because of their race.

Only a jerk thinks like that.

And I'm sure that doesn't describe you!!
Of course it doesn't describe me! But I'm still uncomfortable that anyone should pick on ANY aspect of a person, be it race, colour or indeed accent.
I think we both know where we are coming from and I was being pedantic, but how easy it seems to make judgements based on differences.
As we say oop Saath-wess, tha's culla aint got annneethin te da wiv it, neither actualla 'as accent.

It's all about negative perceptions about dialects (mainly lower classes but not necessarily all), regions of the UK, and immigration (that has gone on for centuries), the non-acceptance and sometimes bigotry towards change.Instead folk here are not that good at looking for the positives......
//But because you're not a bigot or an idiot, you could tell the difference between disliking an accent and disliking someone because of their race.//

//Only a jerk thinks like that. //

VHG - what say you ?
I wouldn't believe anything Miliband or his cohorts say it's all hot air, they will say anything to get into No10 again to continue where they left off ruining -Britain even more, I wouldn't vote for them, ever.
I agree, gran, and the note that the prat Liam Byrne left to Osborne et al in the Treasury will come back to haunt them on the run into the election. So incredibly naive but revealing of core Labour thinking.
//I wouldn't believe anything Miliband or his cohorts say it's all hot air, they will say anything to get into No10....//

And you dont think thats common amongst all parties .. say anything to get into power , that is ?
voulezvous

Nope. I don't see it like that. Everyone judges. I like some accents, and others I find a complete turn off.

You are the same.

Everyone is.
voulezvous

Also, disliking an accent is not the same as judging someone because of their accent.

To me, the Brummie accent is 'fingernails down the blackboard', however I don't judge someone by their accent.

I have a friend who automatically assumes that someone with a Scouse accent is 'dodgy'.

To me, that's a stupid prejudice, because you are assuming a character from a characteristic.
Baz, I find it very hard to believe Miliband and his crew no matter what they promise, other parties seem angelic compared to them.

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