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At Last Labour Speak Out About Immigration
After decades of all the parties being scared to utter a word about immigration at last we now have a party leader who is willing to talk about it.
"Curbs on non-EU immigration will be a key priority for an incoming Labour government", said Ed Miliband on the BBC's Andrew Marr show.
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There are those of us on AB who have been shouting this for years.
Low skilled immigrants, who cant speak English, don't want to integrate, and are happy to milk the benefit system for all its worth. Many of them offer nothing to this country.
There are areas of Birmingham near where I live (Sparkhill and Small Heath for example) that are virtually 100% Asian. They have been turned from poor but fairly nice suburbs of Birmingham into sh*t holes in the last 30 years as the Asians have arrived the whites have left.
If any of you went through these areas you may believe you have wandered into Pakistan or a suburb of Calcutta, with the rubbish everywhere. 30% of cars in these areas are not insured.
I find it so upsetting to drive through these areas I find other ways to drive into central Birmingham, even though one area is on a direct route into the city for me.
Hopefully all the parties will at last realise the damage unrestricted immigration has done and will start to discuss it as part of their policies.
"Curbs on non-EU immigration will be a key priority for an incoming Labour government", said Ed Miliband on the BBC's Andrew Marr show.
http://
There are those of us on AB who have been shouting this for years.
Low skilled immigrants, who cant speak English, don't want to integrate, and are happy to milk the benefit system for all its worth. Many of them offer nothing to this country.
There are areas of Birmingham near where I live (Sparkhill and Small Heath for example) that are virtually 100% Asian. They have been turned from poor but fairly nice suburbs of Birmingham into sh*t holes in the last 30 years as the Asians have arrived the whites have left.
If any of you went through these areas you may believe you have wandered into Pakistan or a suburb of Calcutta, with the rubbish everywhere. 30% of cars in these areas are not insured.
I find it so upsetting to drive through these areas I find other ways to drive into central Birmingham, even though one area is on a direct route into the city for me.
Hopefully all the parties will at last realise the damage unrestricted immigration has done and will start to discuss it as part of their policies.
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sp1814
/// No AOG - not 'many'. ///
/// Most...or rather, 'practically all'. ///
That is looking through the eyes of an Afro/Caribbean/British, such as yourself.
I am obviously looking through the eyes of an English/European.
But I am sure the same could be said for some English Europeans living in Africa/India/Caribbean they would not be viewed as behaving in a true Africa/India/Caribbean manner by the natives of those continents/countries.
/// No AOG - not 'many'. ///
/// Most...or rather, 'practically all'. ///
That is looking through the eyes of an Afro/Caribbean/British, such as yourself.
I am obviously looking through the eyes of an English/European.
But I am sure the same could be said for some English Europeans living in Africa/India/Caribbean they would not be viewed as behaving in a true Africa/India/Caribbean manner by the natives of those continents/countries.
jno
/// aog, people aren't having enough offspring to fund the pensions any more. It used to be your six kids would fund your pension for the six years between your retirement and death. Now people have one child and live 20 years past retirement. So the sums don't add up any more. One solution is to import more workers. If you've got another one, tell George Osborne. ///
There are many faults to your argument,
/// Now people have one child ///
That is just not correct, I know many working families who have 2 to 3, with those on 'Benefits' having even more, and that is just the indigenous population, some immigrant families also have many children.
/// One solution is to import more workers. ///
That is if those we import are actually 'Workers' and if there are jobs that can be found for them, and that when they do have jobs they pay their NI contributions, don't send their money home, and don't leave when they have made their 'fortune'.
/// If you've got another one, tell George Osborne. ///
I don't specifically blame George Osborne, but what we have been telling all the politicians for years.
"You have let too many immigrants into this country".
/// aog, people aren't having enough offspring to fund the pensions any more. It used to be your six kids would fund your pension for the six years between your retirement and death. Now people have one child and live 20 years past retirement. So the sums don't add up any more. One solution is to import more workers. If you've got another one, tell George Osborne. ///
There are many faults to your argument,
/// Now people have one child ///
That is just not correct, I know many working families who have 2 to 3, with those on 'Benefits' having even more, and that is just the indigenous population, some immigrant families also have many children.
/// One solution is to import more workers. ///
That is if those we import are actually 'Workers' and if there are jobs that can be found for them, and that when they do have jobs they pay their NI contributions, don't send their money home, and don't leave when they have made their 'fortune'.
/// If you've got another one, tell George Osborne. ///
I don't specifically blame George Osborne, but what we have been telling all the politicians for years.
"You have let too many immigrants into this country".
British people who have parents or grantparents who are immigrants do not act or talk like their forebears. I know this because I grew up with people who fall into that category. I assume you must know many second or third generation Brits in order to base your statement that that are "carrying on like they were on the Indian Sub-Continent or even Africa". Because as far as I can tell...you're mistaken.
emmie
"having some African looking after me would not be a good thing, and it has naff
all to do with their colour"
Is it language skills that would concern you?
When you say, 'looking after', are you referring to home help, or specific nursing requirements?
I ask, because I would expect different levels of comprehension based on the type of support requirements.
For instance, if I were in sheltered housing, the 'some African' who cleaned my flat and tidied up after me would not need to have the same language skills that (say) my nurse would need, if I suffered from type 2 diabetes and needed monitoring.
"having some African looking after me would not be a good thing, and it has naff
all to do with their colour"
Is it language skills that would concern you?
When you say, 'looking after', are you referring to home help, or specific nursing requirements?
I ask, because I would expect different levels of comprehension based on the type of support requirements.
For instance, if I were in sheltered housing, the 'some African' who cleaned my flat and tidied up after me would not need to have the same language skills that (say) my nurse would need, if I suffered from type 2 diabetes and needed monitoring.
sp1814
/// I assume you must know many second or third generation Brits in order to base your statement that that are "carrying on like they were on the Indian Sub-Continent or even Africa". Because as far as I can tell...you're mistaken. ///
One doesn't necessarily have to know them personally, just venture into some areas of most large cities where they reside.
One can see their shops expanding out on to the foot-ways, notice how they park their cars, sit on the bonnets of cars talking, they will even stop in front of you in the middle of the road, so as to speak with their friends in a passing car, one would take one's life in one's hands, if one dared to give them a blast of the horn.
But even not accounting for those things, although they have been educated in British schools all their lives, listen to the way they speak, it's a different language.
"I once again add, not all of them", but I am just returning my earlier argument which you yourself dismissed.
/// Because as far as I can tell...you're mistaken. ///
But that's not at all surprising, aren't most, as far as 'YOU' can tell, mistaken?
/// I assume you must know many second or third generation Brits in order to base your statement that that are "carrying on like they were on the Indian Sub-Continent or even Africa". Because as far as I can tell...you're mistaken. ///
One doesn't necessarily have to know them personally, just venture into some areas of most large cities where they reside.
One can see their shops expanding out on to the foot-ways, notice how they park their cars, sit on the bonnets of cars talking, they will even stop in front of you in the middle of the road, so as to speak with their friends in a passing car, one would take one's life in one's hands, if one dared to give them a blast of the horn.
But even not accounting for those things, although they have been educated in British schools all their lives, listen to the way they speak, it's a different language.
"I once again add, not all of them", but I am just returning my earlier argument which you yourself dismissed.
/// Because as far as I can tell...you're mistaken. ///
But that's not at all surprising, aren't most, as far as 'YOU' can tell, mistaken?
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