Scottish Independence

[rich47]

What unbelievable scaremongering by that numpty Ed Milliband today when he suggested that if Scotland were independent a Scottish woman who becomes ill in Liverpool would not be treated because she was a foreigner. Would a French woman be treated, or a German woman or an English woman becoming ill in Glasgow? This is absolutely the deepest of the depths to which political spin can plumb. Which right thinking citizen could possibly be swayed by such arrant nonsense?

[emmie]

it was an incredibly ill thought out venture, considering the other nations who felt they had prior claim, and indeed cost the lives of many ordinary folk, and led at a later date to the Union of which you are trying to break away from. A pity.

[Wharton]

emmie - We know all that^. Tell everyone all about the anti-union riots.

[emmie]

i have done my bit, now your turn, you are the Scot and one who wants to break the union, I am English and don't.

[emmie]

many Scots don't know their history, pretty much like many English... unless you take an active interest, get a degree in it, or take it up as a later in life hobby, to learn more about the land of one's birth, and it's myriad sometime horrible, but often fascinating past then no one really really cares. This idea of breaking the union is Alex Salmond vanity project, if he gets what he wants, it does not mean that you will be fully independent

[rich47]

Hi emmie,
I appreciate your support for the union but please consider what your position would be if the situation were reversed. Let us say that the parliament in Edinburgh, which you did not vote for, was controlling your services and ruling your financial outcomes. How would you feel? In Scotland for the most part we have a Government in London for which we did not vote and who control every bit of our public services. Do you think it is fair or democratic that a parliament in Westminster should determine the affairs of the people of Scotland. We have a completely different set of values when it comes to social policy and justice.
Why should we not have the power to make our own decisions on policies and priorities? Please forget the colonial attitude that England knows best.
For example do you really believe that Trident is a good idea?

[rich47]

By the way you will all have heard the old one that there are more pandas in Scotland than Tory MP,s
Rich

[jomifl]

If she was registered with the Scottish health service and held a current European health card then she would get the same treatment as anyone else.

[DaisyNonna]

rich You have a completely different set of values? Cr@p.

[rich47]

DaisyNonna I am afraid that I do not grasp the logic or detail of your argument

[Wharton]

Faslane (the Trident base) is 25 miles from Glasgow, the largest city in Scotland. Name another major city daft enough to have these obscenities within 25 miles.

[Wharton]

^If you can't, I'll suggest one or two for you :-)

[DaisyNonna]

I was merely enquiring why you said that you have a completely different set of values. According to whom?

[rich47]

Daisy, your comment felt more like a put down rather then an enquiry but the crux of the difference is that in Scotland we actually care for and value all citizens
equally and seek to provide a compassionate caring society where all members count and all members help. No individual is above another, no one is entitled to anything, everything is earned and deserved. I would love to spend more time explaining this philosophy but it is really getting late and I cannot be bothered.
Rich

[Hypognosis]

I am stocking up on Panama hats, in time for the build up to the 2014 poll.

:O)

and it was Neil Hair-flick, of all people, who told us all about it on his TV series. Who says that telly rots your brain?

[janbee]

He's not as dangerous as that fat slug Alec Salmond who so obviously hates Scotland and the Scots and wants to takes them back centuries and keep them there. I hope my fellow Scots ALL vote against this stupid , dangerous referendum. I am proud, VERY proud, to be Scottish BUT I want Scotland to be part of the future not to permanently live in the pastwhere bigotry, ignorance and hubris rule the roost. Time also for Salmond to go. He puts himself, not Scotland first.

[Svejk]

/// Do you think it is fair or democratic that a parliament in Westminster should determine the affairs of the people of Scotland.///

Err, yeah.
You seem to have a tenuous grasp on reality, rich. You do realize you vote in Westminster elections, don't you? Anyway, I'll leave you for em to sort out. ;)

[Hypognosis]

Donald **ump has more say over what happens in Scotland than Alex Salmond does, with Salmond latter rolling over faster than a footballer in the penalty area at the slightest whiff of cash.

Vicious rumour has it that the entire ****p empire is built on debt after debt (one sizeable bankruptcy in the past, escaping his creditors completely) with only the steady income streams keeping everything afloat. An interesting parallel with the likely political structure revolving around oil revenue... as long as that lasts.

[rich47]

Hi em (et al),
I find it a great shame that none of you seem able to concede that the people who should make the policies and final decisions about what happens in Scotland are the people who live in Scotland.
Rich