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Time For The Daily Mail To Apologise?
A YouGov poll reveals that 69% of the nation thinks that the Daily Mail owes Ed Milliband an apology for trashing his father.
And more tellingly, 57% of the paper's own readership think the same.
In what other circumstances could a national paper get away with dancing on the grave of a war hero?
And more tellingly, 57% of the paper's own readership think the same.
In what other circumstances could a national paper get away with dancing on the grave of a war hero?
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I fail to understand why people keep trying to link the "disrespect" shown to Thatcher on the announcement that she was dead and the allegations made by the DM against Ralph Miliband. Please explain, because otherwise to me it seems you are just trying to create a false equivalence in an effort to rationalise what the DM did. Even if your false equivalence were...
09:40 Tue 08th Oct 2013
A newspaper has tried to influence the outcome of an election?
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That doesn't really happen, does it ??
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Emmie..that is your opinion, not fact. But of course you are entitled to your opinion, as are the rest of us.
You have stated your abhorrence of a further term of office by the Labour Party, many times before...again, an opinion that your entitled to hold.
But why is that Labour has been consistently ahead in the Polls since soon after the last Election ?
You have stated your abhorrence of a further term of office by the Labour Party, many times before...again, an opinion that your entitled to hold.
But why is that Labour has been consistently ahead in the Polls since soon after the last Election ?
JJ
Here's Milliband's reaction to Thatcher's death:
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As to his reaction to 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' - I can't find anything. But what does that prove?
Should his father be open for abuse by the right wing press because Milliband didn't issue a statement deploring the song's release?
If you didn't write a letter to your local newspaper criticising those who bought the song, then does that give all your neighbours the right to drag your parent's name through the mud after their death?
Silence doesn't always mean agreement.
Here's Milliband's reaction to Thatcher's death:
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As to his reaction to 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' - I can't find anything. But what does that prove?
Should his father be open for abuse by the right wing press because Milliband didn't issue a statement deploring the song's release?
If you didn't write a letter to your local newspaper criticising those who bought the song, then does that give all your neighbours the right to drag your parent's name through the mud after their death?
Silence doesn't always mean agreement.
I fail to understand why people keep trying to link the "disrespect" shown to Thatcher on the announcement that she was dead and the allegations made by the DM against Ralph Miliband.
Please explain, because otherwise to me it seems you are just trying to create a false equivalence in an effort to rationalise what the DM did.
Even if your false equivalence were true ( which it is not), since when did 2 wrongs make a right? You allow your political prejudice to blind you to common decency.
Please explain, because otherwise to me it seems you are just trying to create a false equivalence in an effort to rationalise what the DM did.
Even if your false equivalence were true ( which it is not), since when did 2 wrongs make a right? You allow your political prejudice to blind you to common decency.
Sorry emmie - I'm not sure what you mean.
Surely it's the Daily Mail who aren't letting it lie.
Had they given Ed Milliband his right to reply and not reprinted the offending article on the same page, this would've been all over.
And surely the decision to infiltrate his uncle's memorial service to drag up more dirt was adding fuel to the flame.
It's the Mail which is giving oxygen to thus story, surely?
Surely it's the Daily Mail who aren't letting it lie.
Had they given Ed Milliband his right to reply and not reprinted the offending article on the same page, this would've been all over.
And surely the decision to infiltrate his uncle's memorial service to drag up more dirt was adding fuel to the flame.
It's the Mail which is giving oxygen to thus story, surely?
Just another angle.
I read The Guardian.
I disagree with about ninety percent of their editorials.
But I read it because I like their columnists (with whom I also mostly disagree), and their general journalistic style.
Why do I not sheepishly accept everything they print?
Because I have one of those thing ... what's it called again ...
... the name escapes me at the moment ... oh yes, that was it ...
... "a mind of my own"
I wonder what Ed M is saying about readers of the Daily Mail, if he is suggests (as he seems to) that they will just sheepishly accept everything the paper prints?
Is he saying they are stupid?
Perhaps he should apologise to them.
I read The Guardian.
I disagree with about ninety percent of their editorials.
But I read it because I like their columnists (with whom I also mostly disagree), and their general journalistic style.
Why do I not sheepishly accept everything they print?
Because I have one of those thing ... what's it called again ...
... the name escapes me at the moment ... oh yes, that was it ...
... "a mind of my own"
I wonder what Ed M is saying about readers of the Daily Mail, if he is suggests (as he seems to) that they will just sheepishly accept everything the paper prints?
Is he saying they are stupid?
Perhaps he should apologise to them.
Emmie,
Please don't tell me what I think, especially went you are so hopelessly wrong.
// really gromit, you would defend them to the death for reasons totally unknown, //
I do not care for Ed Miliband and I do not vote Labour.
// he is a man who wanted to get the job, did so, has been hanging on with fingertips since doing so //
Not quite. Despite his low popularity rating, his job has never been on the line. I would be in favour of ditching him, and have posted so before. Although, can't think of anyone in the Labour ranks who is better.
// is often rubbished by his own party //
As is Cameron and Clegg.
// let alone DC in Parliamentary question time //
That is Cameton's job. He is hardly going to pat Ed on the head and say well done.
// wants to bring socialism back to Britain //
No he doesn't. He wants a left of centre Government. Brown and Blair were not Socialists, Calaghan wasn't (he took on the Unions and lost).
heaven help us with him in charge.
// Not surprisingly, many think the same about the Coalition.
Please don't tell me what I think, especially went you are so hopelessly wrong.
// really gromit, you would defend them to the death for reasons totally unknown, //
I do not care for Ed Miliband and I do not vote Labour.
// he is a man who wanted to get the job, did so, has been hanging on with fingertips since doing so //
Not quite. Despite his low popularity rating, his job has never been on the line. I would be in favour of ditching him, and have posted so before. Although, can't think of anyone in the Labour ranks who is better.
// is often rubbished by his own party //
As is Cameron and Clegg.
// let alone DC in Parliamentary question time //
That is Cameton's job. He is hardly going to pat Ed on the head and say well done.
// wants to bring socialism back to Britain //
No he doesn't. He wants a left of centre Government. Brown and Blair were not Socialists, Calaghan wasn't (he took on the Unions and lost).
heaven help us with him in charge.
// Not surprisingly, many think the same about the Coalition.
they haven't got anything of the sort, when it goes out of circulation or when the Guardianistas take over and kill it, then you get your wish. Until then it has a large readership, buying and online, meanwhile the Guardian loses readers buying the paper in their droves, they may pick them up reading on line of course.
gromit, you are fond of telling others what to think, you do it often enough, and not just to me. you and some on here think yours is the only view that counts, it matters not a jot at the end of the day, this is a cyber chat space, we have no influence on our politicians except with our vote, that is all.
JJ - he hasn't said anything of the sort. The original article was one point of view, and his response gave the Mail readers another point of view.
He wasn't saying the Mail readers were mindless sheep - that's not what a right of reply suggests.
Also, he may have taken comfort in the vast numbers of Mail readers who thought the original piece unfair (hence the 57% of readers who believe Mr Milliband is owed an apology).
He wasn't saying the Mail readers were mindless sheep - that's not what a right of reply suggests.
Also, he may have taken comfort in the vast numbers of Mail readers who thought the original piece unfair (hence the 57% of readers who believe Mr Milliband is owed an apology).
a different kind of socialism then? he did say it
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