Guilty Verdict For Lee Rigsby's Killers

[flump1]

It had to be surely ?
Sentencing in January hope it is a long one for them both. How harrowing that had to be for his family and friends.

[jake-the-peg]

//A start would be for some to denounce their religion,//

do you ever stop and think before pressing submit?

[viv38]

Agree AOG - they are just words ......

[naomi24]

Jake, The jury didn't agree with you. The charge of conspiracy to murder a police officer was dropped because there was no 'conspiracy' between the two murderers to murder a police officer, therefore it wasn't something the jury was asked to consider. That doesn't however, mean that there were ' no aggressive actions towards the police' as you claim. If a knife wielding maniac who'd just butchered a man in cold blood came charging at full pelt towards you, you wouldn't see that as an act of aggression? No, of course you wouldn't! What the hell is wrong with you?

[emmie]

amazing where on said on the day of the murder, that in Islamic lands, women have to see the same violence, why didn't he say that in many Muslim countries women are treated like dirt, stoned for adultery, raped, murdered, young girls married off to old men, or have their genitals mutilated, barbaric ways, barbaric men.

[2sp_]

Decent Muslims denouncing their religion will solve nothing. It will only go to further enforce the notion that all Muslims are evil terrorists and that Islam is something to be feared and rejected.

[emmie]

because some will continue on in their belief that we are at fault, and so responsible for the deaths of Lee Rigby and others.

[naomi24]

Andy, //Probably on a 'nothing to lose' basis.//

That wasn't why they didn't plead guilty. They admitted to killing Lee Rigby, but not to the charge of 'murder'. As I said, they claimed it was an act of war, and hence not murder.

[emmie]

from the BBC link
Adebolajo showed no remorse for his actions during the trial, telling jurors that he was a "soldier of Allah" and that he had no choice but to obey the command of Allah. He described how he held the soldier's hair as he hacked at his neck in a motion described by one witness as like a "butcher attacking a joint of meat".

[naomi24]

AOG, //A start would be for some to denounce their religion//

It might surprise you to learn that Muslims are leaving Islam in droves - currently around 16,000 a day in Africa alone.

[LazyGun]

"The brother of one the killers said the attack was inevitable and the justification for Rigby's death was obvious. Speaking to al-Jazeera's Investigations Unit, Jeremiah Adebolajo, who like his brother Michael is a Muslim convert, predicted another Woolwich-style attack due to British foreign policy"

Lets hope someone is keeping an eye on the brother.
Naomi has mentioned it before, and I think I have too - but it does seem to be a high proportion of converts to Islam involved in these terror attacks.

[youngmafbog]

They will be out shortly. The ECHR will see to that coupled with some right-on liberal Parole board and social worker.

This is a prime case for stinging them up, after 10years hard labour in a proper jail.

Yes it's revenge pure and simple, but that is what I (and I believe many others) want. It would also send a message to this sort of scum we will not be messed with and we can stand up for ourselves.

Except of course we cant.

[emmie]

LG if you read the link - unless you did? it gives the details of the brothers words, that is why i posted the link... very chilling. he is another convert by the way.

[sandyRoe]

"They will be out shortly..." Do you really believe that? I hope for their sake their faith is strong because that's all they have to sustain them for the next 40 or so years.

[youngmafbog]

I dont want to believe it but justice in this country has taken a nose dive, mainly due to the ECHR.

I hope no scumbag lawyer will take it on (at tax payers expense) but I bet they will.

[emmie]

sandyr it should be life, not 40 years. i don't care in this instance about them, they forfeited any rights to life

[sp1814]

Those who condemn ordinary Muslims for not speaking out against terrorism may want to have a look at this.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10752168.Muslim_film_maker_vows_to_carry_on_speaking_out_against_extremism/

I think this gentleman deserves praise - in his position, how many of us would be brave enough to stand up?

[emmie]

good, but he has had to be given police protection, so some are out to get him.

[emmie]

people do stand up for what they believe, and put themselves in harms way because of it. Those lonely voices on council estates who protest to council, police about drug dealers, anti social behaviour, they are often ostracised by these communities, or have death threats made against them. There are others who do the same, steam in when they see a robbery, or help those being beaten up - sure they don't get any publicity though.

[hc4361]

In the last two days there has been one sentence of 35 years and one whole life term.
There is no reason why these murderers shouldn't also get very long sentences or whole life.

[emmie]

should be life, no chance of getting out.