Guilty Verdict For Lee Rigsby's Killers

[flump1]

It had to be surely ?
Sentencing in January hope it is a long one for them both. How harrowing that had to be for his family and friends.

[ummmm]

Maybe they'll be deemed conveniently insane at some point and transferred to Broadmore...

[emmie]

sorry it's long, but does go into detail

http://ukcriminallawblog.com/2013/07/11/whole-life-tariffs-unlawful-vinter-v-uk-in-the-echr/

[emmie]

if sincerely hope that never happens. They are not insane, not by a long chalk.

[sp1814]

Pretty easy to comply with that...give a sentence of 25 years, and at that time they can be up for parole...which they won't get (cf. Hindley and Brady).

[ummmm]

Maybe not but they would be contained for life.

[sp1814]

No...let's not get insane mixed up with evil.

[Peter Pedant]

Many thanks emmie - the return to sanity seems far longer than warranted

[ummmm]

Sutcliff has been slashed, stabbed, lost his eye, and goodness knows what else.

[Peter Pedant]

full moon yesterday -
I didnt look out of the window
I just looked at some of the AB postings

sorry should that be in the joke section ?

[sp1814]

And to be honest, there's a remarkably easy way to avoid whole of life tariffs.

Just don't murder people.

Simple as that.

Anyway, I grow tired of talking about these two. I want to forget they exist.

[DaisyNonna]

Human Rights. Wonder what the definition of Human is.

[emmie]

no they are not insane, plenty of footage of Aledejabo in Kenya talking in a court room... its been featured on the news countless times.

[emmie]

sp actually i don't want to forget about these two, they should remain in people's minds as to what these converts and their brethren are capable of, look back through the thread at what the man's brother said, that there will be more of these killings because of our involvement in Islamic countries,

[naomi24]

SP, //What kind of psychological effect would that have on people who are already psychos?//

I really wish people would stop comparing Islamic terrorists to Irish terrorists - it's an insult to the Irish, who whilst their methods are to be abhorred, do have a valid grievance. Islamic fundamentalists consider all Muslims, regardless of country of origin, as brothers in Islam. They see the west as the enemy of Islam and western intervention into Islamic countries not as a war on any specific country, but as a war against a united Islam. That is the difference. If they were made aware in no uncertain terms that the majority of Muslims are not their 'brothers', it might well serve to indicate to them that they don't have the worldwide support they assume they have. This is a mindset like no other and it cannot be compared to anything the people of the west know and understand. Quite simply, they don't think as you or I do - and until we acknowledge that fact - and it is a fact - we will never begin to combat this. Time to stop making excuses for this, and time to stop trying to rationalise it. The reality is radical Islam is at war with us!!

[237SJ]

".. who, whilst their methods are to be abhorred, do have a valid grievance" So that`s OK then - I`ll try to remember that when I am at work and a terrorist is holding a knife to my throat. A terrorist is a terrorist and there are no valid grievances.

[LazyGun]

An article in the Independent on the murderers,and the trial.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/lee-rigby-murder-forget-these-killers-their-intolerable-cruelty-and-their-insufferable-stupidity-9015802.html

[237SJ]

These people are completely brainwashed. No amount of reporting from newspaper journalists will be able to rationalise their state of mind.

[naomi24]

237SJ, //So that`s OK then//

No, it's not OK and I didn't suggest it is OK. Please don't deliberately misinterpret my posts. The Irish do have a valid grievance, but I made it quite clear that the actions of Irish terrorists are abhorrent.

[emmie]

having been in the vicinity of several IRA bombs and the one on the bus in 7/7, suggest that these are murdering bstards, whatever their cause.