Sacking Of The Chairman Of Ofsted.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10613504/Make-state-schools-as-good-as-private-says-Michael-Gove.html

Will we now see a return of discipline, along with an academic improvement to our schools, now that the 'liberal left' influence has been removed from the head of Ofsted?

/// Under a tougher approach to discipline, unruly pupils will be forced to pick up litter, tidy classrooms or mop dining hall floors as part of a tough new approach to disciplining unruly pupils. ///

[modeller]

The most important factor in a childs education is the Parent's attitude.
They serve as role models, and have ambitions for their children.

The ethos of the school is a major factor and much of that is down to the head teacher. Unfortunately for many years heads were appointed for trendy , woolly ideas. eg anti competition , no one allowed to fail, parents not told how their child compared with their peers, mixed ability classes were good, selection by ability was wrong, Grammar schools were closed down and replaced by Comprehensives where all these crazy notions were the norm. Almost all punishments were banned.
Over the years slowly the more extreme of these views were partially dumped but many teachers today were brought up in that environment and it shows up in their teaching.
I remember teaching in one school where maths lessons were cut in half to allow more RE to be taught. In the same school all competition was banned and all a child could obtain was a 'personal best ' . Which resulted in glowing meaningless school reports.
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[Brenden]

Well considering Labour filled these posts with their cronies - to no avail - a change can only be for the best imo.

[DaisyNonna]

Mixed ability classes meant teaching to the middle ability. No stretching of the bright who became bored and switched off, no real support and help for
those at the opposite end of the spectrum, they too became bored and switched off. Two groups of children who could possibly be disruptive.

[EDDIE51]

I sometimes work in a private school kitchen, 15 years ago it was very near 100% UK children now it is 80% Chinese, we have to offer Chinese food at ever meal. The children are very polite and all speak perfect English in fact far better English than pupils at any other school I know.

[pixie373]

Having been to a state school, private school and grammar school myself- the main difference was the class sizes. Discipline is very similar- although stricter at state schools, because more punishments are needed due to less control of bigger classes. They already do litter-picking,cleaning classrooms and mopping floors as punishment in state schools. Wouldn't dream of it in private schools.

[Gromit]

// Well considering Labour filled these posts with their cronies - to no avail - a change can only be for the best imo. //

Baroness Morgan was appointed by Gove in 2011.

[Brenden]

Apologies for my mistake Gromit - must do my homework.

[zebo]

Among all these posts, someone said that parents' attitude was paramount, how true that is. I once told a 15 year old to pick up the litter she'd dropped, to be told That's what we have cleaners for, I'm keeping someone in a job. When I took this further, her female breeder agreed entirely with her off spring!
If teachers were left to teach and not be unpaid nannies, social workers, police officers etc etc, standards would rise, especially if the oiks who don't want to learn, can't be bothered to learn stayed away. As their parents don't care, why should the schools?