Is This Yet Another Story We Should Not Have Been Made Aware Of By The Daily Mail?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2557796/British-Muslim-wife-admit-posting-videos-mocking-horrific-killing-Lee-Rigby-YouTube.html

If one's utter disgust at these two worthless pieces of garbage makes some call a person an Islamaphobe, then so be it.

[sandyRoe]

Do you really think it right to tar all the followers of a religion with the same brush simply because of the tasteless behaviour of a few?

[ummmm]

Why would anyone think we shouldn't be made aware of it?

[anotheoldgit]

Scrivens

/// Why must we always go 'offsite' to read a link? Why not post the story in your question? ///

It is the normal procedure in the news section, if one was to post the whole story it would not only take too much time, but also use up too much site space.

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// Do you really think it right to tar all the followers of a religion with the same brush simply because of the tasteless behaviour of a few? ///

Its not a matter of tarring all followers of that religion with the same brush, it is their religion that needs tarring.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Why would anyone think we shouldn't be made aware of it? ///

From past responses on AB that have accused the Daily Mail stirring up it's readership.

[ummmm]

It does stir but that doesn't mean it shouldn't report...

You need to get back to sticking with the stories and stop going round trying to defend the Mail...

[redvanman]

Sandy roe any one with a brain would not follow or believe in so called religion

[naomi24]

sandyRoe, AOG hasn't tarred all the followers of the religion with the same brush. He's simply indicated, quite rightly, that in some quarters criticism of any Muslim is deemed to be Islamophobic - as your post illustrates.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// You need to get back to sticking with the stories and stop going round trying to defend the Mail... ///

Maybe you should also give out that advise to those who constantly attack the Mail, and especially me for daring to use a Daily Mail link.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

Thank you for that.

[mrs_overall]

I will defend AOG here - he is acting correctly by posting a link here rather than the whole, lengthy story.

AOG - now I have been nice to you, kindly hot foot it over to the post about the man who was jailed for attacking a drug dealer (AND many other offences at the same time), and apologise for being in the wrong

[andy-hughes]

No - it is the Mail's responsibility as a newspaper to report news.

The only issue I, and others, have with the Mail, is the slant it is willing to put on some of the stories it prints - especially if there is a chance of winding up its readership, as it has done here.

The amount of space offered to the story of a nasty man and his nasty wife aggrandaising themselves with social media is disproportionate - except of course that they are Muslims, so that moves them to the top of the Mail's agenda for constantly underlining its stance that Muslims are hate-mongering murderers.

You know full well AOG that being an Islamophobe involves a hatred of islam as a whole, which is an unreasonable stance by anyone's standards.

No-one would call anyone an Islamophobe for expressing disgust at these two individuals - but the disgust is aimed at their expression of their views - not at the fact that they are Muslims.

It' a vital distinction, that the Mail is often not keen to underline.

[Gromit]

// Barnes, of Hackney, east London, today pleaded guilty to three counts of disseminating a terrorist publication and one of inciting murder during a hearing at the Old Bailey. //

Why are Google and YouTube never prosecuted? The videos were published on their site. Without YouTube, the rantings of these loons would never have been made public. Should YouTube not be policed much better, and are not fines (or even prison senteces) for the site's managers a way of encouraging that?

In answer to the question, of course he Daily Mail should report court procedings. Being disgusted by the actions of these two individuals and being scared of anyone who is muslim are two completely different things.

[naomi24]

Andy_Hughes, //No-one would call anyone an Islamophobe for expressing disgust at these two individuals…//

Really? Then why did sandyRoe imply it?

Personally I don’t think the space the Mail has given to this is disproportionate.

[youngmafbog]

Gromit, as I am sure you are aware policing of utube and Google to teh degree required is nigh on impossible and as such how can you prosecute.

Having said that I know they could put some sniffer code in that would quickly find some of this obvious stuff so I am a little puzzled as to why it is there.

AOG, you should know by now the right-on brigade hate the Mail because it points out the obvious flaws in their ideaology. Therefore they will look for any excuse to retaliate, using using their warped view of the world.

My good father, god rest his soul, gave me some good advice worth remembering. "Never argue with a fool".

[andy-hughes]

naomi - "Andy_Hughes, //No-one would call anyone an Islamophobe for expressing disgust at these two individuals…//

Really? Then why did sandyRoe imply it?"

I don't think he did - Sandy asked if tarring people with the same brush is a valid point - that is not the same as inferring that AOG is an Islamophobe, it merely invites his view on stereotyping.

[naomi24]

There was no question of tarring everyone with the same brush until sandyRoe introduced the issue. His inference was clear.

[Gromit]

Ymb

It is not impossible to police YouTube. But it might be more expensive than the current 'anything goes'. It is about money. If Google were finded a substantial amount every time they published terrorist material then I am sure they would quickly find a solution.

[youngmafbog]

Gromit, I disagree. It is impossible to totally police it, in addition different views of each country could cause massive freedom of speech issues.

Yes, they could police it better, and I that is what I wrote. But I really dont see how they could Police it 100% so how can you start issuing fines.

Any government that went that route would soon be called 'mini China' but then I'm sure there are plenty of lefties on here that would love that.