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Despite the case in Cornwall going against the Bulls, another couple want to break anti-discrimination laws. Why are people like this so terribly interested in what people do it bed ?
Despite the case in Cornwall going against the Bulls, another couple want to break anti-discrimination laws. Why are people like this so terribly interested in what people do it bed ?
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When you are talking about somebody's home (complete with three kids) doubling up as a B+B, it seems to me that they should be able to accept or refuse anybody they want. for whatever reason they want. This is just another example of the gay lobby trying to force absolutely everybody to see things their way.
13:39 Thu 20th Mar 2014
pixie...well said. That is what anti-discrimination laws are all about. This couple and others that want to discriminate are in the wrong line of business.
As has been said on here already, Rosa Parks could have chosen to walk that day instead of catching the bus. By why should she have done that..so that some bigots could be allowed to carry on as they always had done ?
As has been said on here already, Rosa Parks could have chosen to walk that day instead of catching the bus. By why should she have done that..so that some bigots could be allowed to carry on as they always had done ?
i take offence at any number of things that i consider anti social, but my rights don't seem to come into play, people who break the law at every turn who seem above the law, cyclists for one, riding on the pavements, and particularly over red traffic signals, very few are caught, very few get fined,
and i didn't liken gays to smokers, i was merely pointing out that laws change, and smokers have had to adapt, as have pubs.
and i didn't liken gays to smokers, i was merely pointing out that laws change, and smokers have had to adapt, as have pubs.
Svejk - "This constant 'martyrdom', making mountains out of mole-hills and belief that the whole world revolves around the rights of the homosexual community makes even the most easy going of people ie.me, sometimes, yearn for a return to the fifties.
It would justify the persecution complex the gay community seem to wollow in and give the rest of us 10 minutes peace from hearing about their 'issues'."
If you contribute to a thread that debates the abuse of gay rights, then you are going to encounter that subject being discussed.
It hardly constitutes 'martyrdom'!
The fact is this - although as a society we have made massive inroads into the blind and violent predjudice against a section of that society who live differently through their orientation, there is still a hue amount of predjudice which gay people experience on a daily basis.
A return to the fifties? There speaks a straight man who has never had to endure a moment of such predjudice.
It would justify the persecution complex the gay community seem to wollow in and give the rest of us 10 minutes peace from hearing about their 'issues'."
If you contribute to a thread that debates the abuse of gay rights, then you are going to encounter that subject being discussed.
It hardly constitutes 'martyrdom'!
The fact is this - although as a society we have made massive inroads into the blind and violent predjudice against a section of that society who live differently through their orientation, there is still a hue amount of predjudice which gay people experience on a daily basis.
A return to the fifties? There speaks a straight man who has never had to endure a moment of such predjudice.
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lady-janine
it appears to me that it is not homosexuals and lesbians that are being persecuted. //
Quite so lady-janine, I think the answer is simple, allow segregated b&b establishments then Christians,Muslims,All Faiths, No faiths, Homosexuals,
Heterosexuals whatever, will all be free to choose who they want to stay in their OWN homes.
lady-janine
it appears to me that it is not homosexuals and lesbians that are being persecuted. //
Quite so lady-janine, I think the answer is simple, allow segregated b&b establishments then Christians,Muslims,All Faiths, No faiths, Homosexuals,
Heterosexuals whatever, will all be free to choose who they want to stay in their OWN homes.
"Gay-only hotels to be investigated for discriminating against straights"
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This is from 2011. Does anyone know what the outcome was?
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This is from 2011. Does anyone know what the outcome was?
It is hardly your own home anymore if you are running a business from it, and inviting people as paying guests into your own home. That becomes a business, and it is against the law to discriminate. I am really really sorry if this major step forward in protecting the rights of everyone by making it illegal to discriminate offends you.
If your religious beliefs are so important to you that you wish to impose them on others, regardless of THEIR beliefs ( or non-belief) then you should not be running a business.
The idea that, to combat discrimination we introduce MORE discrimination seems a non-starter to me.
And yes, of course you can find examples of bigoted youngsters- as you quite rightly point out, they will pick up on and absorb the attitudes of family and friends, so it is no surprise if they themselves are growing up in a bigoted environment. But the data shows that, in this country at least, with each successive generation we are becoming less bigoted, more tolerant. That is a good thing.
If your religious beliefs are so important to you that you wish to impose them on others, regardless of THEIR beliefs ( or non-belief) then you should not be running a business.
The idea that, to combat discrimination we introduce MORE discrimination seems a non-starter to me.
And yes, of course you can find examples of bigoted youngsters- as you quite rightly point out, they will pick up on and absorb the attitudes of family and friends, so it is no surprise if they themselves are growing up in a bigoted environment. But the data shows that, in this country at least, with each successive generation we are becoming less bigoted, more tolerant. That is a good thing.
If Hotels are advertising themselves as "gay only" or "men only", then the EHRC should investigate and prosecute in much the same way as they have with the christian B&B owners.
To attempt to claim that they will lose business or that their environment will become less safe is the same kind of argument that christian B&B owners have tried. They are equally unacceptable.
You see this argument everywhere though. From the same reference as yours, Pink News, there was a comment piece arguing about whether straights should be allowed into self-designated Gay clubs, and the commentator thought that wrong, as did many of the (presumably) gay respondents in the comments section.
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To attempt to claim that they will lose business or that their environment will become less safe is the same kind of argument that christian B&B owners have tried. They are equally unacceptable.
You see this argument everywhere though. From the same reference as yours, Pink News, there was a comment piece arguing about whether straights should be allowed into self-designated Gay clubs, and the commentator thought that wrong, as did many of the (presumably) gay respondents in the comments section.
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> But people don't just walk up to someone in a pub and ask about their sexuality. Usually they would strike up a conversation first. <
i can assure you that some do and this was in a straight pub when i was stood next to him, in fact the person he asked looked at me when i near choked and spit some beer out and i bet he thought we were all gay in the pub.
i can assure you that some do and this was in a straight pub when i was stood next to him, in fact the person he asked looked at me when i near choked and spit some beer out and i bet he thought we were all gay in the pub.
i haven't read the whole thing as i have to go out, will look in later.
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To all who are interested this makes good reading.
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It's interesting to hear people criticising gay people for lacking empathy with bigots.
And how bigots are now the persecuted ones.
And I really do mean bigots...because when a person of faith uses their religion to deny goods and services to gay people, they are using their faith as an excuse.
Once again, I must ask - why don't these Christians ban menstuating women from their establishments?
It's 'buffet faith' - picking the bits and pieces they're happy with, and ignoring the rest.
Oh, and with reference to this always being about Christians...well, the fact is its not:
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It's just that there are more Christians in the UK, and they're the ones who are constantly running to tribunals or the courts because they're 'oppressed' (B&B owners, wedding registrars etc).
Christians who claim that they are being persecuted need to tell us how many of them are beaten up because of their faith, or thrown out of their home when their parent find out that they are Christian. I would need to see the number of Christian teenagers who attempt to kill themselves because they're ashamed of their faith.
I submit that Christians and those who think that Christians are being persecuted should think again.
And how bigots are now the persecuted ones.
And I really do mean bigots...because when a person of faith uses their religion to deny goods and services to gay people, they are using their faith as an excuse.
Once again, I must ask - why don't these Christians ban menstuating women from their establishments?
It's 'buffet faith' - picking the bits and pieces they're happy with, and ignoring the rest.
Oh, and with reference to this always being about Christians...well, the fact is its not:
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It's just that there are more Christians in the UK, and they're the ones who are constantly running to tribunals or the courts because they're 'oppressed' (B&B owners, wedding registrars etc).
Christians who claim that they are being persecuted need to tell us how many of them are beaten up because of their faith, or thrown out of their home when their parent find out that they are Christian. I would need to see the number of Christian teenagers who attempt to kill themselves because they're ashamed of their faith.
I submit that Christians and those who think that Christians are being persecuted should think again.
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