Hillsborough Remembrance In Liverpool 25 Years On

[dave50]

What are people's thoughts on what's going on in Liverpool this afternoon? Am I the only one who thinks it's all a bit over the top? Yes I know it was a terrible thing that happened but I just cant help thinking a lower key approach would have been better.

[Ken4155]

It is the city of Liverpool who, quite rightly, remember the 96 lives lost. It is for the communities of other towns and cities to commemorate their particular tragedies the way they see fit. In 1962, in Burnley, some 16 miners were killed in an underground explosion. We still remember them each and every year with a small ceremony at the town's cemetery. OTT? Not a bit of it.

[whirlyhurly]

Hear hear Ken.

[Sipowicz]

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink!
Some on here are misguided, others are nasty pieces of work!
One more link for anyone who is genuinely interested, I shall comment no more until after the ongoing enquiry (not inquest)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster

[royfromaus]

I suspect the ones posting the vitriol are Manchester United fans.


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[mikey4444]

No I don't think its "over the top" at all. 96 people, some of them little children dies that day and the families have still not had the satisfaction of knowing why. Perhaps later on this year when the new Inquests have finished, they will be bale to put it behind them.

[ummmm]

I doubt it Mikey. Learn to live with maybe but imo it's not something you'd ever get over.

[dave50]

All very interesting answers. I just hope that when the enquiry is complete, the people of Liverpool accept the findings whatever they may be. The trouble is I always get the impression that Liverpudlians think they can never do any wrong.

[piggynose]

this is the 1981 spurs v wolves semi-final clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0

[redman41]

dave50, you obviously have a mental problem.
If I was you I would seek Medical advice, asap
Prat of the highest order

[dave50]

Thank you for that Redman41

[royfromaus]

I think it is worth remembering this was Maggie's Britain, the police had carte blanche to act in any manner that suited them.

[joko]

As a person from Liverpool, I will tell you why the people of Liverpool don't mourn Heysel in the same way as Hillsborough - its pretty simple - its because they didn't lose anyone at Heysel.
Do you hold memorials and mourn the deaths of strangers every year?
No neither do i ...
The dead where not the Liverpool fans, so there is no personal loss for them.
Of course they feel sympathy for those who died, but it does not affect their lives in the same way as the loss of their own kin does.

96 people were lost, many very young - so assuming each of them them had say, 4-5 immediate family, another 10-15 cousins and aunties and uncles, then say each had around 7-10 closer friends, and their siblings friends

kids would also have had about 30-40 wider circle friends, around 30 classmates and a further say 100 or so school mates
or adults also perhaps 10 workmates, another 5 college friends - times that by 96 and thats a hell of a lot of people - in a city of 466,000, who are affected by Hillborough!

Most people knew someone who died or who was extremely affected by it
I knew someone - I was his sisters best friend at school, and spent many a day in his house.

Do you really think the people who lost family at Heysel do not have memorials, and remember them too?
you don't know because its not in our news, but doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
But it does not go unnoticed in Liverpool either - they do remember it at anfield etc - just not as much as Hillsborough
comparing it to other disasters is a pretty idiotic thing really and adds nothing to the argument of those that oppose the level of mourning.

If other towns that have had disasters want to have memorials etc then they could, and no-one in Liverpool would say a word, you cannot say people are not allowed to care as much because other people don't - it is not Liverpools fault other towns don't care.

The fact that its so big in the news at the moment, is because its the 25th anniversary, and because finally, the truth has come out, the true horrendous story, the cover up, the treatment, the lies etc etc - people have, after a 25 years inquiry, finally got their answers - and thats pretty newsworthy, especially since it involves underhand and downright abhorrent actions of high level police officers etc.


I for one am proud to be from Liverpool when it comes to Hillsborough - there are not many cities that could unite in the way Liverpool does, not many football teams that forget their rivalry and join forces, in the way Liverpool and Everton does.
Any city that feels so strongly and cares so deeply about its people - even the ones who didn't lose anyone, or were not even borne - is one to be respected.

The people of Liverpool wanted something done or changed and they went and made it happen.
They never gave up.

[joko]

Many of the crew - and the captain - of the titanic were from Liverpool as it had links with the docks

there are plaques and things and exhibits and do believe there is some kind of maritime memorial here at the pier head etc

but very few alive today knew anyone involved so the level of hurt is not so prevalent.


i wish people would make their minds up - people are saying liverpool is mourning too much - yet in the same breath moan that other disasters arent mourned enough!!
you cant have it both ways! damned if they do, damned if they dont eh?

and all the people complaining ... do you regularly attend memorials for all these disasters all over britain and europe ...?
thought not...