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Why Did People Allow The Union Flag To Be Associated With Far Right Groups?
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Which other country would allow their nation flag to become associated with right wing political factions?
In America, all people can stand behind their flag...now if you see a group of men marching down the street with the Union Flag draped around their shoulders, you can be fairly certain that their knuckles will be draping along the ground (did ya see what I did there?)
Seriously...how comes this happened to England, but not Scotland, Ireland or Wales?
Who is to blame (because I assume *someone* has to be blamed...)
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Which other country would allow their nation flag to become associated with right wing political factions?
In America, all people can stand behind their flag...now if you see a group of men marching down the street with the Union Flag draped around their shoulders, you can be fairly certain that their knuckles will be draping along the ground (did ya see what I did there?)
Seriously...how comes this happened to England, but not Scotland, Ireland or Wales?
Who is to blame (because I assume *someone* has to be blamed...)
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Andre has a red flag, Chiang Ching's is blue They all have hills to fly them on except for Lin Tai Yu Dressing up in costumes, playing silly games Hiding out in tree-tops shouting out rude names
21:13 Thu 24th Apr 2014
and not many are so called knuckle draggers, those who go to the Rugby At Twickenham, and cricket, often have one draped around shoulders or flying at the games, i have always like both St Georges flag, and the Union Jack
same for the Proms concerts and any other event, it doesn't have to be hijacked by anyone, its only the stupid media who have created this impression and as said left wingers who don't think we should show any patriotism at all.
same for the Proms concerts and any other event, it doesn't have to be hijacked by anyone, its only the stupid media who have created this impression and as said left wingers who don't think we should show any patriotism at all.
AOG
You asked:
"You are not telling me that these bars conduct an 'Irish Only' policy"
No.
I'm saying that I know these bars, and outside St Patricks Day, the faces are almost all white, but on St Patricks Day the demographic changes with the numbers of people flooding the area.
Nothing sinister in that.
You asked:
"You are not telling me that these bars conduct an 'Irish Only' policy"
No.
I'm saying that I know these bars, and outside St Patricks Day, the faces are almost all white, but on St Patricks Day the demographic changes with the numbers of people flooding the area.
Nothing sinister in that.
emmie
As I wrote earlier, when I see a group of young shaven headed mean marching with the flag of St George, I immediately assume they are extreme right wing knuckle-draggers, however, if I sense that it's linked to football (and as you've said, rugby/cricket) then my assumption changes.
I think it's because when you have a group of young men with the flag of St George who are attending a sporting event, they're generally smiling...and their knuckles are at least three feet from the tarmac.
As I wrote earlier, when I see a group of young shaven headed mean marching with the flag of St George, I immediately assume they are extreme right wing knuckle-draggers, however, if I sense that it's linked to football (and as you've said, rugby/cricket) then my assumption changes.
I think it's because when you have a group of young men with the flag of St George who are attending a sporting event, they're generally smiling...and their knuckles are at least three feet from the tarmac.
at the victory celebrations, street parties, that occurred across the nation on the ending of WW2, bunting, flags, streamers, banners of every description, were raised and flowing, no one would have ever thought it strange that they were up - the people were proud, happy, not at the slaughter, more that it was all over, and the families could be together again, a national celebration,
on visiting the Paralympics people carried, waved, and were proud to display our flags, as well as a fair smattering of their own. To use a well worn cliché it made me feel proud to be English, British
on visiting the Paralympics people carried, waved, and were proud to display our flags, as well as a fair smattering of their own. To use a well worn cliché it made me feel proud to be English, British
sp1814
/// As I wrote earlier, when I see a group of young shaven headed mean marching with the flag of St George, I immediately assume they are extreme right wing knuckle-draggers, ///
That is your fault for stereotyping, what would you say if someone said, "if I see a group of black youths coming towards me, I immediately assume that they are a group of thugs ready to mug me".
Incidentally aren't shaved heads in fashion these days?
/// As I wrote earlier, when I see a group of young shaven headed mean marching with the flag of St George, I immediately assume they are extreme right wing knuckle-draggers, ///
That is your fault for stereotyping, what would you say if someone said, "if I see a group of black youths coming towards me, I immediately assume that they are a group of thugs ready to mug me".
Incidentally aren't shaved heads in fashion these days?
I don't want to be associated with these people although they choose to fly the flag of my country, as seen on the home page
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And the BNP choose to use the Union Flag
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It is a shame that our flags can be used by organisations such as these. Let them design their own flag if they must use one.
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And the BNP choose to use the Union Flag
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It is a shame that our flags can be used by organisations such as these. Let them design their own flag if they must use one.
AOG
Yes, perhaps it's an issue of stereotypes...to me all BNP/EDL supporters have 'a look'.
emmie...I think you might be putting words into my mouth.
I think I said that a group of shaven headed young men marching down the road with the flag of St George would immediately make me think of BNP or EDL?
Also, AOG...I don't think you're comparing like with like. A group of black men walking down the street looks no more like a group of muggers than a group of white men walking down the street.
However a group of skinheads *marching* down the street with the flag of St George is something very different from a group of young white men walking down the street.
You see what I mean? I think you're comparing apples with orange.
Yes, perhaps it's an issue of stereotypes...to me all BNP/EDL supporters have 'a look'.
emmie...I think you might be putting words into my mouth.
I think I said that a group of shaven headed young men marching down the road with the flag of St George would immediately make me think of BNP or EDL?
Also, AOG...I don't think you're comparing like with like. A group of black men walking down the street looks no more like a group of muggers than a group of white men walking down the street.
However a group of skinheads *marching* down the street with the flag of St George is something very different from a group of young white men walking down the street.
You see what I mean? I think you're comparing apples with orange.
sitting next to three gay blokes on the tube, all dressed as mods, shaven headed, bovver boots, ben sherman style shirts, braces, with lots of tats,
should i have assumed they were from the BNP, seems pretty unlikely, how did i know they were gay, from their discussions, it was a fairly long journey.
should i have assumed they were from the BNP, seems pretty unlikely, how did i know they were gay, from their discussions, it was a fairly long journey.
emmie
It had right wing connotations in the 70s when the NF adopted it.
That, by the way, is simply my opinion...and it's not like I saw a Union flag and thought, "Uh oh...racist ahoy". For instance, I remember a sea of red white and blue at the Silver Jubilee, and to me it was simply a flag.
I think it may have been a contextual thing...if I saw a record label with a Union flag on it, I would associate it with 'Oi' music. If I saw someone wearing one sewn to a bomber jacket (especially a Harrington jacket) I would be on my guard.
It had right wing connotations in the 70s when the NF adopted it.
That, by the way, is simply my opinion...and it's not like I saw a Union flag and thought, "Uh oh...racist ahoy". For instance, I remember a sea of red white and blue at the Silver Jubilee, and to me it was simply a flag.
I think it may have been a contextual thing...if I saw a record label with a Union flag on it, I would associate it with 'Oi' music. If I saw someone wearing one sewn to a bomber jacket (especially a Harrington jacket) I would be on my guard.
brief style note sp..
the Harrington jacket, more properly the Baracuta G9 a la Steve McQueen among others, was nicked by the skinheads from the far more stylish Mods
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the Harrington jacket, more properly the Baracuta G9 a la Steve McQueen among others, was nicked by the skinheads from the far more stylish Mods
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