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Jomlett | 13:55 Mon 30th Jun 2014 | News
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Rolf Harris Guilty on all charges


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Lots of abusers are still very much alive and kicking and almost certainly still abusing. Google Elm Guest House for instance. Cyril Smith was never prosecuted because he knew where the bodies were buried. He didn't abuse boys in Rochdale on his own. Local journalists will tell you about the "dirty mac brigade" that used to turn up by train on a Saturday...
08:36 Wed 02nd Jul 2014
How come jordy's answers when he has been rude to posters stay?
He does use the excuse of being tipsy at the time...fact!
Isn't it compensation enough to know that the person is probably facing prison and if so ,will probably die there?
Not when people have had their working lives made impossible by panic attacks and mental illness, no. They deserve monetary compensation.
I ask, again, why shouldn't the victims receive compensation directly from their abuser?
So having money will stop their panic attacks etc. ?
No but money pays for counselling and recompenses them for their loss of earnings, its not hard to grasp- the people you think so unworthy are VICTIMS of a CRIME- they ought to be compensated.
\\\\Not when people have had their working lives made impossible by panic attacks and mental illness, no. They deserve monetary compensation.\\

\\\I ask, again, why shouldn't the victims receive compensation directly from their abuser?\\\

Mmmm! I think that the amount of emotional "torture" that one has to absorb during a lifetime is difficult to quantify and may I add...exaggerated.

Yes, i can see an argument for monetary compensation, but what worries me, is that it may well be in excess of that given to a serviceman who has lost a limb.

Disproportionate.
I'm sure they'd rather there was a way the crimes could be undone.
Yes, i can see an argument for monetary compensation, but what worries me, is that it may well be in excess of that given to a serviceman who has lost a limb.



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Any compensation will come directly from Harris's wealth and therefore the actual amount is immaterial......
Went too early.


That is a comparison that should not even be made imo.
The governments treatment of our soldiers leaves a lot to be desired.
Our law allows us to claim damages for pain, suffering and loss of amenity. So if you are injured in a car accident through someone else's reckless or negligence and it caused injury you can be compensated.

Many many victims of crime do not claim compensation against their attacker because a) insurers do not provide cover for that type of claim (unlike road accidents) and b) it is often just not worth suing.

So why should a victim of a car accident caused through negligence be entitled to claim but a victim of a crime which was perpetrated with intent not?

His victims will have suffered pain, suffering and loss of amenity - just because the injuries are not visible it does not lessen them as injuries.
\\\ just because the injuries are not visible it does not lessen them as injuries.\\

Agreed........but it does make them more difficult to identify and quantify.
It's not just celebrities who grope women.Just wait until all the 'joe bloggs' gropers are being sued .There must be lots of them in every workplace in the land. The UK will be bankrupt.
Does it matter?
Someone, somewhere will decide how much his many victims are each entitled to receive and it will be taken directly from Harris.
///The UK will be bankrupt.///

I fail to see your reasoning here.
Does it matter if Rolf is "taken to the cleaners" financially?

No!......it might if you were in Rolf Harris's will.

But that isn't my point, which is to quantify in monetary terms the suffering one has been subjected too because of his illegal and immoral actions.
Well this is where people dont understand how the system works. The Claimant (or in this case, more properly the VICTIM) has to prove their case. The effect on some will be significantly different from victim to victim.

There are a set of guidelines applied in these cases known as the Judicial College Guidelines which set down brackets and awards. For those victims on whom it didnt have a significant impact, they will attract awards at the lower end of the scale. For those with past history of having problems coping with having been abused who have sought counselling, medical intervention and have had problems forming intimate relationships which subsist today, they will receive awards at the upper end.
It must be hard to quantify a sum for a lost limb too? It doesn't seem to be the same amount for everyone, anyway.
JtH, could Andres be referring to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority which pays compensation to victims of crime when the perpetrator has no funds to pay compensation himself?
That uses taxpayers money

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