A Culture Of Arrogance

[gordiescotland1]

Why is it that when you talk to somebody in the yes campaign for independence they are so arrogant? There seems to be a culture of arrogance in the yes camp has anyone else found that?

[murraymints]

as one who worked very closely with the ministers on the devloution bill, within the ministerial suite and House I consider myself better informed than most having listened to arguments from all parties..devolution is the best option..separation would be national sucide !

[ChillDoubt]

That's ok mikey. I'll retort with UKIP gave Scotland it's first UKIP MEP.
Quite a remarkable achievement in such a short space of time don't you think?

[maggiebee]

TTT I resent your comment about brainwashed schoolkids having the vote. My grandson has the vote for the first time and believe me he is far from brainwashed. The subject has been debated in school and he watches and listens to all the televised debates. Much to my disgust he is voting NO, but that's what democracy is all about.

[Svejk]

why would the scots vote for conservative politicians. They receive all the benefits the left wing bribe them with without suffering any of the consequences.
If the No vote wins they'll move on to devo-max. ie. a socialist utopia paid for by English taxpayers.(mark my words, ;-))

[Svejk]

and taffy wont be slow on the uptake either.

[jim360]

Both sides of the debate have their arrogant members. The "yes" campaign is perhaps a bit louder.

[ToraToraTora]

resent it if you like maggie but it's a well know fact that Scottish kids get taught to hate the English from early age so getting them to vote at 16/17 means they won't jhave had time to wake up to reality like many older Scots, QED they are likely going to vote Yes.

[janbee]

Yes people all live and dwell in the past. They don't give a rats about the future of the country. They bang on about "my" future, but never about THE future. Independence is forever not just something that can be voted out after 5 years when the initial euphoria has worn off. Salmond hates Scotland and the Scots and is willing to drag us all back into the past and leave us there to languish. He and his ilk are all on a massive, and very dangerous, ego trip.

[bazwillrun]

No
hope that helps......

[2sp_]

There is arrogance on both sides. I don't think it's fair to assume that everyone will vote a certain way for the same reason.

[2sp_]

TTT - "it's a well know fact that Scottish kids get taught to hate the English from early age"

State your source please.

[boxtops]

As an English person heaving involved with Scotland for the last 40 years, I'd say that any arrogance has been from the English - many people still say "England" when they mean "Britain", and think that the English are superior. I don't blame the Scots for resenting that attitude.

[Pete65]

Tora Tora Tora,
You are posting absolute nonsense.

[New Judge]

I'm in the "Yes" camp (although outrageously, living in England, I don't get a vote on the future of my nation).

"Devolution that came about as a result of Labour winning the landslide victory in 1997 I might remind everybody"

Yes quite true, Mikey. And one of the most ridiculous measures to come from a government in recent years, even by that administration's abysmal standards.

The South East (with a population far greater than that of Scotland and Wales combined) has often been governed by a party that most of the electorate there have no intention ever of voting for. It's called democracy - you don't always get what you want. Scotland or Wales have no more right to independence - or for that matter devolution - than the South East, or Cornwall or Liverpool has. When this nonsensical referendum is done and dusted and the Nos have it as I'm sure they will, the UK government should set about homogenising the minor nations in to the rest of the UK. That includes their financial systems, their judicial systems and everything else that is the responsibility of the UK government in England. Either that or break up the whole kit and caboodle into four bits and let each of them get on with it.

I hope I'm not too arrogant because actually I don't give a monkey's how the vote goes. If it results in Scottish independence that's fine so long as it is achieved quickly and does not compromise the UK's currency by involving a Sterling currency union with an independent nation that has not a hope in hell of paying its way. If it results in a "No" vote that too is no big deal, but any more devolutionary measures (the so-called "dev-max" solution) would be a grave mistake.

[Wharton]

I've yet to encounter anyone of the NO persuasion who has read the White Paper "Scotland's Future" and yet they will happily tell me I'm wrong in just about every aspect of a future Scotland, including my pet hate, the obscene Trident, filthying Scottish water. Now there's arrogance for you.

[New Judge]

I've read most of it, Wharton and I couldn't tell you (from that document anyway) whether you're right or wrong. Nor could anybody else and that's the problem the scottish voters face.

[Zacs-Master]

Why do people ask questions and then not join in?

[jomifl]

I've read it but I'm leaning to don't care rather than don't know, but since I live in France, I don't matter.

[New Judge]

You're not alone, jomifl.

More than 57m people live in the remainder of the UK and they don't matter either. Even though Mr Salmond's plan is to demand a currency union with the rest of the UK or else walk away from the Union without accepting responsibility for the Scots' share of the National Debt.