What Do They Expect.......?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29211526
Cover themselves in the daubings of a 10 year old and wonder why they don't get the job! Please!

[andy-hughes]

bednobs - "I read this article yesterday and the professional line stood out to me. She keeps her tattoos covered in order to maintain a professional appearance. the implication to that is that when they are uncovered they are unprofessional looking."

Since when were tattoos supposed to be 'proffesional lookin'?

If the young lady is outside work, with her tattoos uncovered, she would not be required to look 'professional' or indeed 'unprofessional' - having tattoos applies to neither.

When i come to work, I wear a smat shirt and trousers - that is my professional clothing. When i wear jeans outside work, I do not feel that I appear unprofessional - why would I?

Your point is disappearing as I type.

[Khandro]

I once failed to get 100% in a general knowledge quiz because I didn't know what the tattoo was Winston Churchill's arm.
I now know, does anyone else? and could it really be described as general knowledge?

[ludwig]

// Since when were tattoos supposed to be 'proffesional lookin' //

They're not, and I think that's bednobs point. The woman in the article knows they're unsuitable to be on display when she's at work, just like you know jeans would be innappropriate workwear for you.

[mazie]

An Anchor... It was a quiz question the other week on TV Khandro (can't remember which one though)

[Mamyalynne]

Didn't stop some being successful in their field (some more successful than others)

THOMAS EDISON

Tattoos would never have taken off if Edison’s patented “electric pen” hadn’t paved the way for the first tattoo gun. So it’s only fitting that he had a quincunx, a geometric pattern of five dots, inked on his forearm.

GEORGE ORWELL

The 1984 author also saw spots. His were bright blue and tattooed on his knuckles. The dots were supposedly a bit of youthful rebellion from Orwell’s days as a policeman in colonial Burma.

JAMES K. POLK

America’s 11th president annexed Texas, but he had another legacy that was just as lasting: starting the trend of Chinese-character tattoos. Polk’s ink translated as “eager,” or so he was told.

TEDDY ROOSEVELT

Polk wasn’t the only tattooed commander in chief. Teddy Roosevelt had his family crest emblazoned across his chest. (Yes, that image is Photoshopped.)

ANDREW JACKSON

The notoriously cranky Jackson was never one to bury the hatchet, but he did have a tomahawk inked on his inner thigh.

DOROTHY PARKER

The sharp-tongued writer sported a small blue star near her elbow as a memento of a drunken night in the 1930s.

WINSTON CHURCHILL

As of 2012, the U.K. holds the title of the world’s most tattooed nation, and the trend goes back ages. Even Churchill sported some body art: an anchor on his forearm.

BARRY GOLDWATER

Longtime senator Barry “Mr. Conservative” Goldwater adorned his hand with a crescent moon and four dots, the trademark of the Smoki People, an Arizona organization dedicated to preserving Native American culture.

CZAR NICHOLAS II

In 1891, Nicholas II of Russia visited Japan to improve Russo-Japanese relations. He survived an assassination attempt on his trip, but he also came home with a souvenir: a colorful dragon on his right arm.

KING HAROLD II

Royal tattoos have been around longer than you’d think. After England’s Harold II emerged as the big loser at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, his allies identified his body using his ink, including his wife’s name, Edith, scrawled across his heart.

[mikey4444]

Mamy...all these appear to have tattoos that are not readily visible, when in normal working attire, which rather proves TTT's original point.

[Mamyalynne]

Oh we've moved the goalposts,ok.

[Svejk]

nobody's moved the goalposts. its about visible tattoos stopping one getting a job.

[mazie]

I'm not keen on Inkings but my Daughter has about 17, she started getting hers before they became fashionable. She's very artistic and she waits and saves before she gets each one done. She has 2 or 3 consultations with the artist that does hers before finally going ahead. Last year she got a job in a leading American clothes outlet. They put her in the baby and toddler Department. She's been there a year now and Sales have increased by a whopping 63%. Mostly she works in this section on her own. She gave her notice in 2 weeks ago as she's going to do an Art and Design course, they begged her to stay... Tats and all. It's a shame we tend to judge people in the first few seconds of meeting and never really get to know the people underneath.

[Svejk]

if they cant be seen, how would they effect your job prospects?

[ToraToraTora]

well thanks all for your contributions and well done for keeping it mostly civil. I think this has been my longest ever thread!

[mazie]

By the way she was offered the job a) because she is an amazing person b) They perceived her to be "On Trend" because of her tattoos.

[mazie]

It's been interesting TTT, thank you x

[Daffy6543]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/23/article-2766331-219863DE00000578-292_634x612.jpg

Seems serving police officers are now allowed very visible tattoos.
(This image is from a report in today's Daily Mail about a suspected murder suicide involving a train a mother and a child.)

[Mamyalynne]

//but none of those had -------- cut here---------- round their neck, or a tear drop, or love and hate on their knuckles, or a spider's web on their neck did they//


Suddenly that is the criteria.


I when interviewing someone for a job , take in their punctuality, their approach and warmth of greeting, knowledge of the position and indeed if necessary the qualification to do the job.


I would rather meet someone tattooed head to toe any day if they were also open and pleasant than someone who is purely judgemental on visual pointers.

[Sipowicz]

On trend?

[Mamyalynne]

Mazie,you could easily have been describing my daughter there but for the different occupation.