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Does This Type Of Thing Alienate Others Against The Lgbt, Rather Than Attract Their Support?
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Mamyalynne
/// In my own view, it matters not what a supposed reason behind an attack is - all are equally low and unlawful. ///
And I couldn't agree more it is just that some are suggesting that an homophobic attack is more serious than any other reason for attacking an individual, be them white, black, Asian, Chinese, Jew, or straight etc.
/// In my own view, it matters not what a supposed reason behind an attack is - all are equally low and unlawful. ///
And I couldn't agree more it is just that some are suggesting that an homophobic attack is more serious than any other reason for attacking an individual, be them white, black, Asian, Chinese, Jew, or straight etc.
AOG
You asked:
"Oh so we have to take your word for it that it was indeed an homophobic attack or be labelled abnormal."
Didn't you read your own link?
It's reported as a homophobic attack, because a group of people were beating up two gay men whilst shouting homophobic slurs.
What else would it be?
If they were shouting racist slurs, it would be treated as a race attack and so on.
You asked:
"Oh so we have to take your word for it that it was indeed an homophobic attack or be labelled abnormal."
Didn't you read your own link?
It's reported as a homophobic attack, because a group of people were beating up two gay men whilst shouting homophobic slurs.
What else would it be?
If they were shouting racist slurs, it would be treated as a race attack and so on.
AOG
Hate crimes are dealt with more severely because the point of them is to make specific minorities live in fear that the majority do not share.
You know - sttaught people don't have to look over their shoulder when leaving bars and clubs in provincial towns for fear of random attacks - or do they?
Hate crimes are dealt with more severely because the point of them is to make specific minorities live in fear that the majority do not share.
You know - sttaught people don't have to look over their shoulder when leaving bars and clubs in provincial towns for fear of random attacks - or do they?
On the specific point - I wouldn't like to be subjected to a musical event which I have not chosen and could not escape. It probably wasn't my sort of music. Intrusive, unnecessary and annoying/irritating. I would feel more negative towards the group. The cause which they represented remains a different story.
AOG
You wrote the following:
//Oh especially those from the LGBT community”?????????????
Surely everyone should be treated equally?//
True - but gay people are attacked in numbers which are far in excess of the number of random attacks on straight people. Therefore would you not agree that gay people are treated unequally to begin with?
//There is a lot unanswered here, how did the young man and his female partner know that these two were in fact gay?//
Why would that matter? However, if you think it's important, perhaps one of these scumbags overhead him talking about his boyfriend. But again - it's irrelevant. The relevant fact is that they were attacked by filth.
//Who were this gang of blacks and mixed race?//
They would be the attackers in this story. Along with the white couple on the tram. We don't know who they are because they have not been caught yet.
//Why aren't the police also classing this a racial attack?//
Already explained.
//It would appear that the gang of 15 men did the physical damage to these two gay lads, whereas the the man and his female companion dished out the homophobic insults.//
Yes - that's in the story. We already knew that because the rest of us read it in full.
You wrote the following:
//Oh especially those from the LGBT community”?????????????
Surely everyone should be treated equally?//
True - but gay people are attacked in numbers which are far in excess of the number of random attacks on straight people. Therefore would you not agree that gay people are treated unequally to begin with?
//There is a lot unanswered here, how did the young man and his female partner know that these two were in fact gay?//
Why would that matter? However, if you think it's important, perhaps one of these scumbags overhead him talking about his boyfriend. But again - it's irrelevant. The relevant fact is that they were attacked by filth.
//Who were this gang of blacks and mixed race?//
They would be the attackers in this story. Along with the white couple on the tram. We don't know who they are because they have not been caught yet.
//Why aren't the police also classing this a racial attack?//
Already explained.
//It would appear that the gang of 15 men did the physical damage to these two gay lads, whereas the the man and his female companion dished out the homophobic insults.//
Yes - that's in the story. We already knew that because the rest of us read it in full.
AOG
By the way, like most normal people I roundly condemn this cowardly attack on this couple.
I find it disappointing that others seek to cloud the issue, especially after reading this from the Manchester Evening News:
Jean Claude Manseau and Jake Heaton were reciting tunes from the hit musical on the Metrolink service from Bury to Manchester when a man started hurling anti-gay taunts at them.
The pals got off the tram at Market Street and started walking towards Canal Street when the passenger approached them in Piccadilly Gardens.
They described how he then called over to 15-strong group, who crowded round the two friends and began attacking them.
Jean Claude, known to his friends as Jo, was knocked unconscious and suffered numerous head injuries in the attack.
Jake, a 19-year-old customer service adviser, was punched in the back of the head but managed to reach a nearby shop to call for help.
But then again, I suppose that everyone has different things that get them mad. Not everyone shares my disgust at this - that's life.
By the way, like most normal people I roundly condemn this cowardly attack on this couple.
I find it disappointing that others seek to cloud the issue, especially after reading this from the Manchester Evening News:
Jean Claude Manseau and Jake Heaton were reciting tunes from the hit musical on the Metrolink service from Bury to Manchester when a man started hurling anti-gay taunts at them.
The pals got off the tram at Market Street and started walking towards Canal Street when the passenger approached them in Piccadilly Gardens.
They described how he then called over to 15-strong group, who crowded round the two friends and began attacking them.
Jean Claude, known to his friends as Jo, was knocked unconscious and suffered numerous head injuries in the attack.
Jake, a 19-year-old customer service adviser, was punched in the back of the head but managed to reach a nearby shop to call for help.
But then again, I suppose that everyone has different things that get them mad. Not everyone shares my disgust at this - that's life.
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