Now Should We Ban The Burka?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914727/Police-hunt-bank-robber-disguised-BURKA-sunglasses-high-street-raid.html

/// 'Were you in The Parade (in Oadby) this morning? Did you see anyone matching his description or do you have information about the incident? ///

Man/woman dressed in a Burka in Leicester, it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

[THECORBYLOON]

It's anyone in national costume so it's not our fault if the English don't have a dagger as part of their national dress [whatever that is .]

[THECORBYLOON]

SLAPSHOT do they have bouncers on the doors at banks? If a robber wants to wear a crash helmet he will, regardless of bank policy.

[Slapshot]

And??? ..... point stands Corbyloon if you were a biker it may be more apparent to you.

[tiggerblue10]

Yes, Burkas should be banned but I doubt it will ever happen.

[Gromit]

I once saw a raid on a bank, and the criminals had baseball bats, and masks.
It never occurred to me that baseball should be banned as a result.

The logic of banning a Burka because a man, whose religion we do not know, wore one to rob a bank is a flawed argument.

[THECORBYLOON]

A biker intent on robbing a bank would not remove his helmet, would he, so what does that prove?

[-Talbot-]

Are all you defenders of the burka misogynist?

[-Talbot-]

Not one of you will answer the question of women being forced to wear them.

This is the UK we do not force women to cover their faces in this Kingdom!

[naomi24]

I often wonder, Talbot.

[THECORBYLOON]

If Muslim women are forced to wear the burkha, why are there not hundreds of thousands of them in the UK

[Gromit]

Talbot.
No I am not a misogynist. Have you ever talked to any muslim women? They are not forced to wear it, most choose to. I have Bangladeshi neighbours, two couples living in the same house. One of the women covers her face and the other one doesn't. They do have a choice and some decide not to cover up.
It isn't muslim women crusading to ban the Burka as some form of liberation from oppression, it is old men who just want to bully people.

[-Talbot-]

Every one of the women wearing burkas do so out of choice then, Corby?

If it is banned in public, they can't be forced to wear it by their ...er superiors (would that be the correct word?)

[-Talbot-]

Talbot.
No I am not a misogynist. Have you ever talked to any muslim women?


If you actually bothered to read the threads you are involved in you would know, Gromit.
I will repeat myself ................just before Chrismas I asked two niqab wearing women a question in a store, they totally ignored me.

Any thoughts as to why they ignored me?

[hc4361]

Some women choose to the wear the burka. Those that don't choose to do so but do because of their husbands/family might not be allowed out if the burka is banned.

The fact that women can wear the burka brings in millions of pounds of revenue every year in to Britain.
http://www.westlondontoday.co.uk/content/french-burka-ban-boosts-west-end-sales

I would much prefer women choose not to wear the burka of their own choice

[Gromit]

// Any thoughts as to why they ignored me? //

Did you ask them in Urdu? Perhaps they did not speak English. Maybe you want to make that illegal next.

[naomi24]

hc, //Those that don't choose to do so but do because of their husbands/family might not be allowed out if the burka is banned. //

Read what you've written - and really think about that. That's what you're defending.

[Gromit]

Talbot,
Do you make a habit out of approaching strangers and interogating them about their dress?
It seems very rude and ungentlemanly.
It could also be construded as threatening behaviour.

I would ignore you too.

[-Talbot-]

Gromit
// Any thoughts as to why they ignored me? //

Did you ask them in Urdu? Perhaps they did not speak English. Maybe you want to make that illegal next.



Gromit...you are a complete idiot.

[mikey4444]

No one is forced to be a member of any religion, with all its associated customs and inanities. My Irish Grandmother always wore a black lace veil, when she went to Mass and she went every day, but nobody forced her to wear it. My Mother went every Sunday and never wore a veil, ever. But they were both committed Catholics. Both were very strong, independently-minded women, and if either of them had been "instructed" by a man in what they should wear, the men would have been treated to language that the Parish Priest couldn't possibly have condoned.

If some Muslim women feel oppressed than that is an issue for them to sort out. Banning one form of clothing and allowing others isn't going to help that situation at all. Instead, it will just make a lot of smug, white xenophobes feel even more smug that they normally feel and it won't change anything.

I will reiterate that the Charlie Hebdo massacres occurred in a country, that already has anti-burka legislation in place and it completely failed to protect anyone.

[-Talbot-]

Talbot,
Do you make a habit out of approaching strangers and interogating them about their dress?
It seems very rude and ungentlemanly.
It could also be construded as threatening behaviour.

I would ignore you too.



A much bigger idiot than I first thought!