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Jeremy Clarkson V Bbc.
He's instructed lawyers over Jimmy Savile smear. I don't blame him either.
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> "If you look at what David Cameron says or what (former culture and media Secretary) Maria Miller says and you swap Clarkson for Savile, you get this: David Cameron is effectively saying that Savile's a real talent, Maria Miller saying Savile will be Savile," the source was quoted as saying.
Oh dear, BBC.
First covering up for Savile; then comparing Clarkson to Savile; then dragging politics into it.
How clumsy can you get?
Oh dear, BBC.
First covering up for Savile; then comparing Clarkson to Savile; then dragging politics into it.
How clumsy can you get?
I agree with AOG's post from 12:36.
People are focussing on what Jimmy Saville did...that's not what this is about. It's about how people treated Jimmy Saville. He was so powerful and well connected as to be untouchable.
People who should have stood up to him did not.
This is exactly the same as how people treat Jeremy Clarkson.
And it's exactly the same reason why Jonathan Ross' producers felt they could not censor his show (the Andrew Sachs incident)...because he was 'omnipotent'.
People are focussing on what Jimmy Saville did...that's not what this is about. It's about how people treated Jimmy Saville. He was so powerful and well connected as to be untouchable.
People who should have stood up to him did not.
This is exactly the same as how people treat Jeremy Clarkson.
And it's exactly the same reason why Jonathan Ross' producers felt they could not censor his show (the Andrew Sachs incident)...because he was 'omnipotent'.
Clarkson is not actually employed army the BBC is he?
So he couldn't be sacked as such.
For that it is worth (not a lot) if someone compared me to Hitler for my 'constant anti Russian' views I would just laugh tho 'unter mensch' is not so far off the mark
Seems to me Clarkson is one of those who dishes it out but can't take it
So he couldn't be sacked as such.
For that it is worth (not a lot) if someone compared me to Hitler for my 'constant anti Russian' views I would just laugh tho 'unter mensch' is not so far off the mark
Seems to me Clarkson is one of those who dishes it out but can't take it
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// Ichkeria, If someone said to you, that your constant anti-Russian opinions seemed just like Hitler and his views on the untermensch, wouldn't be just a bit peeved. (sorry to invoke Godwin's law again).// DB
O god what a tortured analogy.
I hope Itch would reply - that of course would AFTER the Nazi-Soviet pact and not during it...
O god what a tortured analogy.
I hope Itch would reply - that of course would AFTER the Nazi-Soviet pact and not during it...
Where is 'the smear'? All they are saying is it likening what was said to how people treated the savile affair. Clarkson is playing the get out out of jail card IMHO and like it or not I'm sure he feels he is omnipotent and can't be touched in whatever capacity. Whoever gave this person the credence he doesn't deserve I don't know. But I do know, what he accepts as right and OK isn't always what others agree with. He's too up himself IMO which is a shame because he comes across as a brill presenter most times, just a shame he goes for gold!!!
The smear is here:
> "If you look at what David Cameron says or what (former culture and media Secretary) Maria Miller says and you swap Clarkson for Savile, you get this: David Cameron is effectively saying that Savile's a real talent, Maria Miller saying Savile will be Savile," the source was quoted as saying.
"you swap Clarkson for Savile" is the problem, as it would be if it said "you swap anybody for Savile". I'll give you an example:
> "If you look at what David Cameron says or what (former culture and media Secretary) Maria Miller says and you swap Attenborough for Savile, you get this: David Cameron is effectively saying that Attenborough's a real talent, Maria Miller saying Attenborough will be Attenborough," the source was quoted as saying.
In suggesting that you could swap Clarkson for Savile, the suggestion is that they are comparable. That's the smear.
> "If you look at what David Cameron says or what (former culture and media Secretary) Maria Miller says and you swap Clarkson for Savile, you get this: David Cameron is effectively saying that Savile's a real talent, Maria Miller saying Savile will be Savile," the source was quoted as saying.
"you swap Clarkson for Savile" is the problem, as it would be if it said "you swap anybody for Savile". I'll give you an example:
> "If you look at what David Cameron says or what (former culture and media Secretary) Maria Miller says and you swap Attenborough for Savile, you get this: David Cameron is effectively saying that Attenborough's a real talent, Maria Miller saying Attenborough will be Attenborough," the source was quoted as saying.
In suggesting that you could swap Clarkson for Savile, the suggestion is that they are comparable. That's the smear.
I am surprised Jim360 hasnt popped his head in and said
' it is an obvious case of mistaken isomorphism ' or something
When a journalist in a tired moment wrote "Animals are like Children .... " and I mercilessly ridiculed him for writing "Children are like animals"
and was ready to argue that if A is like B then B is like A ( its called a reflexive relation ) he was ready to waggle libel writs....
' it is an obvious case of mistaken isomorphism ' or something
When a journalist in a tired moment wrote "Animals are like Children .... " and I mercilessly ridiculed him for writing "Children are like animals"
and was ready to argue that if A is like B then B is like A ( its called a reflexive relation ) he was ready to waggle libel writs....
