Isis Atrocities

[tonyav]

More atrocities by isis scum.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/is-shows-purported-executions-in-libya-of-ethiopia-christians/ar-AAbjcQk

[Apariah]

Muslims tend to have more children than the non muslim population, therefore at some point it could become a mathematical possibility.

[Svejk]

Sp is a great defender of the Muslim faith. I think he enjoys flying.

[youngmafbog]

Odd, since he has an awful lot to loose once Sharia law comes to the UK.

[jim360]

Since Muslims currently make up about 4.5% of the population (4.4% in the last census, I've added a little bit to allow for any growth in the last four years), then the only way they can achieve a majority in the country is by increasing their numbers from less than 3 million now to over 60 million in x number of years. And then that doesn't take into account the population growth amongst non-Muslims e.g. Eastern European immigrants who are more likely to be Orthodox Christians, etc.

This puts the total population in a Muslim-majority UK at somewhere in the region of 120 - 130 million. Since the same people who fear a Muslim majority are usually also those who complain about the UK being "full" already... I don't think we have anything to worry about really.

The only other alternative route to a Muslim majority is some sort of horrific disaster affecting only (or at least overwhelmingly) non-Muslims, causing the UK population to plummet to somewhere below 6 million in total. In such circumstances we'd probably have more to worry about than a possible takeover of Sharia law -- the entire survival of the species would be at stake. Either that or mass voluntary conversions at an unprecedented scale.

There is no realistic prospect of a Muslim-majority UK in my lifetime, let alone anyone else's here.

[dannyk13]

The Western world should combine to put boots on the ground and wipe them out.

[sp1814]

TWR

How do I come to that conclusion?

By reading the facts and using mental arithmetic.

[sp1814]

Svejk / youngmafbog

I'm not a defender of Muslim fundamentalism.

I'm an attacker of stupidity.

To be one doesn't necessarily make you the other.

Oh and youngmafbog - in this context it's 'lose', not 'loose'.

[sp1814]

jim360

You're using maths and common sense.

You must be some kind of Muslim apologist.

;-)

[Svejk]

youngmafbog /// Odd, since he has an awful lot to loose once Sharia law comes to the UK. ///

Hence my 'flying' remark, ymb. I didn't necessarily mean in an aeroplane.

[naomi24]

Jim, not in your lifetime perhaps, but if the Muslim population continues to increase at today’s levels then eventually it will outstrip the rest.

SP, he’s not using maths – or common sense.

[jim360]

Naomi, I flatter myself but I reckon I know when I'm using maths far better than most people on this site will.

[naomi24]

Jim, if you think your maths are right on this one you are flattering yourself.

[jim360]

You're entitled to your opinion on that, Naomi. But you'd be wrong. It is just not going to happen that the current rate of increase in the Muslim population will continue indefinitely. There is no point in pretending otherwise, except to scaremonger.

[naomi24]

Jim, //It is just not going to happen that the current rate of increase in the Muslim population will continue indefinitely.//

Oh, so you're not using maths at all - you're guessing. Thought so. I don't know how you reach that conclusion, but I hope you're right. I have my doubts though.

[sp1814]

jim360

What people are ignoring is not only your maths (which make perfect sense to me), but also the fact (as in my link) that Muslim birth rates fall to match those of their host country within a couple of generations.

There is one fact that is indisputable, that there are pockets of the UK which have very large Muslim demographics, and I expect that some 'townies' extrapolate this.

[sp1814]

naomi24

For the maths, please see my link.

[Svejk]

/// It is just not going to happen that the current rate of increase in the Muslim population will continue indefinitely///

You've got that right, jim. It will, of course, snowball. Simple maths. And the tipping point for a Muslim takeover is nowhere near 51%. As other countries found out to their cost throughout history.

[sp1814]

Svejk

Please name five countries where a Muslim state has been declared where Muslims are not in the majority.

[Svejk]

You are Stephen K Amos and I claim my £5.

[naomi24]

SP, I've seen your link. Shame the estimate stops at 2050, but nevertheless the findings appear to agree with me.

//Most of the “native” populations of Europe are failing to have enough children, while birth rates are higher among Muslim immigrant populations, so it seems inevitable that the British Muslim population will rise in the coming decades.

But it’s equally clear that the gap in fertility between Muslim and non-Muslim will continue to lessen over time, as it has in recent decades.//

Bearing in mind that the Muslim population consistently breeds at a higher rate than the rest of the population, it has to lessen very significantly indeed before it will make a difference to future demographics. To put it simply, more kids inevitably leads to more kids.