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//I have explained many times why I believe the belief that this is 'my country' to say who will and who will not live here is arrogant and futile - I am yet to be convinced by any argument or opinion to the contrary.// andy-hughes just a question when does it stop though at the country or do your beliefs continue to your own house? Do you lock your doors when you go out...
14:12 Wed 13th May 2015
// but try not to be offensive in doing so. //

Perhaps if you extended the same courtesy to others AH you might not get 'offensive' remarks back.

Though I dont really consider that is an offensive remark personally.
Svejk - //Name one, you can't //

The Christian Coalition Of America
The Assemblies Of God
the Charismatic Movement.

No, I can't name 'one' - will three do for you?
Don't care if they are 'only' 16, don't care if they are someone's daughter, they should not be allowed back into the country as they have already considered doing harm to it by joining IS ! No sympathy AT ALL !
And when did they threaten to kill the majority of UK citizens?
I must have missed that.

AH, I'm not going to get involved in an argument with you, the amount of Copy and Paste would be unbearable, so just going to make a statement, I find your attitude to be generally very naïve, the fact that you see no threat from our present Muslim Population let alone those returning from living with and marrying into The IS Group to be tantamount to betrayal of our Country. Maybe not in our lifetimes Andy, but I would wager that within our children's lifetimes there is going to be major conflict between Muslims and a.n.others within the UK.
Baldric.

Thank you for your input.
Very true Baldric.
All I want for Christmas is a crystal ball ....

If you believe everything a fear-mongering media tell you, then indeed the end of the world is nigh.

Just like it was in the 1970's when AIDS first appeared, and government ads predicted that by the year 2000, everyone would know an infected person - still waiting on that one ....

Remember 'bird flu' - and how we were all going to wiped out by a pandemic which mysteriously failed to materialise ...

And the onset of GM foods, which again has gone ominously quiet ...

And that's before we get started on 'climate change' ...

Make yourself a slave to the media bandying prophesies based on scare-mongering, and you can live in fear.

I choose not to.

Who has a happier life?
OK, it's about yachts and their security - but it makes pertinent points following on from Balders post:
http://www.onboardonline.com/industry-article-index/features/the-future-of-yacht-security/
Enjoy your 'happy life'. I'm more concerned about my grandchildren/great-grandchildren having the freedom to enjoy a 'happy life'.
baldric; //....living with and marrying into The IS Group to be tantamount to betrayal of our Country.//
Steady on old boy! we're talking about 15/16 year old silly schoolgirls, not the much older men who have gone out to actively kill people.
Are you a father of daughters? I brought up two, now both turned 40, and believe me they did stupid things at that age, - and so did I for that matter!
Svejk - //Enjoy your 'happy life'. I'm more concerned about my grandchildren/great-grandchildren having the freedom to enjoy a 'happy life'. //

Your sense of nobility does you credit.

We already have the so-called Hate Preaches, the ones who will urge others to take up the cause, in the background we have their Minders, watch them, with my background I can tell a person with Military Training from a gifted amateur any time, how many of those could be Sleepers, just biding their time. There is no gullibility to scare mongering on my part, just a concern for the future of my Country, my Childs Country. It really is time a few more people 'woke up' to the possibilities!
Instead of getting sarky, shouldn't you be googling to find examples of those 3 'terror' organisations, you cited, threatening us.
Or you could always apologise and admit you were wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for once.
Perhaps we should ask for our Brownings back Belders?
Baldric - //just a concern for the future of my Country //

It's not 'your' country, it's the country you are fortunate enough to live in - and that's not the same thing at all.
Svejk - // Instead of getting sarky,//

Do I detect a degree of over-sensitivity here? I think I do.

// ... shouldn't you be googling to find examples of those 3 'terror' organisations, you cited, threatening us. //

Can't really be bothered to be honest.

//Or you could always apologise and admit you were wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for once. //

Records show that if I believe I am wrong, I have no problem in apologising, and if I am wrong on this thread, I will continue with tradition and apologise.

But that will be some time in the future.
//It's not 'your' country, it's the country you are fortunate enough to live in - and that's not the same thing at all. //

That's your opinion, not necessarily correct and not necessarily held by others.
andy-hughes, //Lord save us from liberal do-gooders! //

The Liberal do-gooders are the people who've allowed the problem to accelerate unhindered!

//I don't know [if there are any fundamentalist Christian sects that want to murder the majority of the UK's citizens]//

I think you do.
Back to the topic....

No, I don't believe they should be allowed back in the UK, and No, I don't want them back either.

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