What Do You Think?

[Svejk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207681/Mother-took-five-children-Manchester-Syria-denounces-ISIS-desperate-come-home.html

[-Talbot-]

lol...I like it Ladybirder

[andy-hughes]

Naomi "...Radical Islam doesn’t compromise. If you could bring yourself to understand that you would understand that there can never be dialogue."

I can 'bring myself to understand that ...' as you rather patronisingly put it - but since the alternative is simply to say that there is no point in trying, then we simply make ourselves as intransigent as they are.

Militant Islamist are living in a feudal system that has fundamentally remained the same since the 12th century - that is their reason for their intransigent attitude.

What do you suggest we use as ours?

[Svejk]

Good gagging, ladybirder. And not a bad idea.

[andy-hughes]

Sorry laadybirder - I'm a bit busy!!!

[Ric.ror]

Maybe this lady and her family would feel more comfortable in another muslim country - perhaps one of the Arab gulf countries

[andy-hughes]

Ric.roar - "Maybe this lady and her family would feel more comfortable in another muslim country - perhaps one of the Arab gulf countries"

Maybe she would, and maybe she is a British citizen and wants to come home.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //Militant Islamist are living in a feudal system that has fundamentally remained the same since the 12th century - that is their reason for their intransigent attitude.

What do you suggest we use as ours? //

Common sense.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "andy-hughes, //Militant Islamist are living in a feudal system that has fundamentally remained the same since the 12th century - that is their reason for their intransigent attitude.

What do you suggest we use as ours? //

Common sense. "

Is that what you think common sense is?

[Ric.ror]

Maybe she would, and maybe she is a British citizen and wants to come home.

And maybe had she not been dissatisfied in this country she would not have left in the first place

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, it's common sense to acknowledge that attempts at dialogue are futile.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "andy-hughes, it's common sense to acknowledge that attempts at dialogue are futile. "

If you adopt a position that attempting dialogue is futile, then you are closing the door to potential dialogue, and saving yourself the tiresome task of having to try to open communications.

I happen to believe that the future of innocent civilians in the world demands that even if the door is close, knocking on it may make it open - refusing to knock on it obviously won't.

Add to that the acknowledged fact that Muslim extremists are so firmly entrenched in their belief that they are right, and the have a stubborn streak the size of Neptune - showing them the same attitude will merely re-enforce their belief that they are right, and that we are simply stubborn and pig-headed (pardon the pun again) and if that is our position - they would be right to see us like that.

[andy-hughes]

Ric.roar - "Maybe she would, and maybe she is a British citizen and wants to come home.

And maybe had she not been dissatisfied in this country she would not have left in the first place "

I do not think we can assume that her departure was because of dissatisfaction with this country.

More likely I would suggest is a (misplaced) sense of loyalty to her husband who we are advised was an IS fighter - and free of his influence and control, she may wish to exercise her own opinions and views - which includes leaving IS society and culture and coming home.

[retrocop]

//Add to that the acknowledged fact that Muslim extremists are so firmly entrenched in their belief that they are right, and the have a stubborn streak the size of Neptune - showing them the same attitude will merely re-enforce their belief that they are right, and that we are simply stubborn and pig-headed (pardon the pun again) and if that is our position - they would be right to see us like that.//

That is just a gem. PMSL What irony. :-)

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, They aren’t interested in what we think. They don’t care what we think – and they never will. They are laughing at people who think as you do.

[Baldric]

/// firmly entrenched in their belief that they are right, and the have a stubborn streak the size of Neptune///

Irony Klaxon, please, quick!!!!

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "andy-hughes, They aren’t interested in what we think. They don’t care what we think – and they never will. They are laughing at people who think as you do."

Last time I looked, no-one died of being laughed at.

If I could hear a Militant laughing at my view, I would be in apposition to ask him why he is laughing, and we can start talking to each other.

It's a start ...

[andy-hughes]

Retrocop and baldric - I don't see the irony to which you are referring - either or both of you care to elaborate please?

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, You could start talking - he'd still be laughing - and then he'd chop your head off.

[retrocop]

It would seem beyond your comprehension.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - "It would seem beyond your comprehension. "

Billions of things are beyond my comprehension on a daily basis - that's why I ask for clarification when I am interested to explore further - can you oblige me?