Little Boy Washed Up Dead On Turkish Beach

[mikey4444]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/refugee-crisis-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-turkey-trying-to-reach-canada#img-1

This is a heart-breaking picture. What do our "righties" think ? Should we help these people or not ? This refugee crisis is now being talked about as the worst in Europe since WW2.

The full story is here ::

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/refugee-crisis-syrian-boy-washed-up-on-beach-turkey-trying-to-reach-canada

Just in case anyone thinks this is the Guardian making its usual fuss, this is the Independent today :::

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/if-these-extraordinarily-powerful-images-of-a-dead-syrian-child-washed-up-on-a-beach-dont-change-europes-attitude-to-refugees-what-will-10482757.html

[youngmafbog]

//we have plenty of space to build new, affordable homes//

And the power plants, the schools, the roads, the water suply to sewage, the hospitals ........?

[ummmm]

Divebuddy....that's just a daft thing to say.

[-Talbot-]

mikey4444
Retro...we have plenty of space to build new, affordable homes


People in the UK have faced a housing crisis for decades and you now think we should magic some new houses to house foreigners?
Do the people from the UK who have been on housing lists for years go to the back of the queue behind these newcomers?

More houses, more people = more infrastructure = less and less arable land = less and less food. The UK produces 20% less food than we did only twenty years ago, as it stands we simply can not feed the people without imports and we are doing nothing to redress the balance.

[anotheoldgit]

A photo, how do we know it is not posed?

When are we going to stop this self flagellation? this was not our fault, it was the child's parents fault.

The idea that on the strength of this one photo we should open the flood gates is ridiculous, if we do then we will be responsible for every migrant that put their lives at risk crossing the Mediterranean.

Perhaps some would wish to take the sure way of stopping the risk of anyone else being killed, that is for the governments of Europe to advertise a number to ring, when we will send over a boat and pick them up from their point of departure?

Now there's being humanistic for you.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Divebuddy....that's just a daft thing to say. ///

Why is it so daft, maybe because you don't wish to be inconvenienced personally by those migrants you care so much about.

Perhaps there should be a National 'ADOPT A MIGRANT' campaign?

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// But we used to have a large stock of affordable homes for rent, but we know what happened to those ///

Yes most of them are still lived in by those who had paid many years of rent before the late good old Margaret Thatcher gave them the opportunity to buy them.

[ummmm]

It's not as simple as that though. Practically must people know we can't take 1000's in for reasons Mick Talbot stated. That doesn't mean we aren't saddened by the scenes we're seeing and care about other human beings!

[anotheoldgit]

How can we possibly take in any more? it was reported last December that we had a backlog of immigration cases equivalent to the size of Cardiff.

/// A backlog of more than 390,000 immigration cases has been built up by the Home Office – equivalent to the population of Cardiff. ///

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881462/Migrant-population-size-Cardiff-lost-Backlog-390-000-cases-leaves-process-intensive-care.html

[-Talbot-]

A photo, how do we know it is not posed?


AOG, yesterday they showed a video of the policeman picking up the child to remove him from the beach, do you think it is possible they staged that too?

[anotheoldgit]

-Talbot-

Nothing stopping it from being a possibility.

[tamborine]

Everyone cares & hate seeing imagages of drowned kids but we have our own pains to deal with, ie children suffering cancer, babes born dead to folk who live peacably among us. Our welfare is stretched to our own first.

Show your concern by donating to Red Cross, my earlier link, get your credit cards out instead of passing the buck to Dave.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Child dead on Turkish beach trying to reach Canada. Europe needs to change attitude to refugees.
What connection is there between these two propositions which anyone who hasn't got a porridge brain can understand?

[vetuste_ennemi]

What can be done about the endless stream of drivel threatening to overwhelm the West?

[anotheoldgit]

Letting everyone in, would this stop little children being washed up dead on beaches?

One big NO.

What are your thoughts on these images?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220746/God-little-angel-world-shows-grief-anger-death-tragic-Syrian-toddler-Aylan.html

[tamborine]

Canada.....wrong ocean ;)

[vetuste_ennemi]

I was being rude - ...anybody who is not a Guardian or Independent reader...

[Mrsspagnoli57]

Possibly the most difficult picture to look at I've seen. Difficult decisions, possibly dangerous decisions need to be taken. If these people are not refugees then what are they? All have embarked upon a tortuous journey and do not look as though they are faking anything. This heartbreak needs to stop and the EU needs to work together (for a change) to equally distribute and alleviate the pain. Politics and compassion should not be blurred.

[Retrochic]

I wrote a huge paragraph then deleted it - all I can say is that some of the comments on here are sick.

[anotheoldgit]

Mrsspagnoli57

/// This heartbreak needs to stop and the EU needs to work together (for a change) to equally distribute and alleviate the pain. Politics and compassion should not be blurred. ///

And if they did, and all the EU nations took their share, what about next years swarm, should we accommodate those as well, and the following year, and the year after, and......?

[stuey]

Anotheoldgit, I would suspect that most of the people who "created" those images in your last link don't give a damn about the child: they just want to demonstrate how "talented" they are in the "art' of photo and image manipulation.