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Muslim Can't Be President Apparently
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Carson is a highly educated man. It wasn't so long ago that people were saying that about black people, and as a black person, he should really know better than to try to replace one form of prejudice with another.
Carson is a highly educated man. It wasn't so long ago that people were saying that about black people, and as a black person, he should really know better than to try to replace one form of prejudice with another.
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AOG - "Now what do we have here, Mikey's opposition to a US Republican Party member, that I can understand to a certain extent, taking into consideratio n his left-wing views, but then going on further to criticise this person who happens to be Black, is there no boundaries in his continuous support of the Islamic faith?" I would suggest that the thrust of...
12:27 Mon 21st Sep 2015
vetuste_ennemi
I'm basing my position on what Carson said.
He said that Islam is inconsistent with the US constitution. In order for his position to stand, he would have to believe that every single Muslim American is unable to uphold the constitution.
As we all know, there are hardline Muslims, moderate Muslims and even those who are Muslim 'by name only'.
This line of reason also suggests that if a Muslim cannot govern, then he or she cannot be fit for any office which demands adherence to the Constitution.
...and that is one hell of a lot of jobs.
But I honestly think that the likelihood of a Muslim President is up there with Madonna winning an Oscar for acting.
I'm basing my position on what Carson said.
He said that Islam is inconsistent with the US constitution. In order for his position to stand, he would have to believe that every single Muslim American is unable to uphold the constitution.
As we all know, there are hardline Muslims, moderate Muslims and even those who are Muslim 'by name only'.
This line of reason also suggests that if a Muslim cannot govern, then he or she cannot be fit for any office which demands adherence to the Constitution.
...and that is one hell of a lot of jobs.
But I honestly think that the likelihood of a Muslim President is up there with Madonna winning an Oscar for acting.
// Wasn't James11 supposed to be a secret Catholic? Or maybe that was just one more reason to get him out and give Mary, and the accursed King Billy, twin thrones.//
Nope Charles II converted on his death bed having been an RC in pectore for twenty or thirty years.
James II (brother) was an out of the closet RC and lasted three years
thereafter the Protestant succession
But I have to say that I thought separation of chuitch and state meant that the prez cd be a sun worshipper and no one cared
Nope Charles II converted on his death bed having been an RC in pectore for twenty or thirty years.
James II (brother) was an out of the closet RC and lasted three years
thereafter the Protestant succession
But I have to say that I thought separation of chuitch and state meant that the prez cd be a sun worshipper and no one cared
AOG - // andy-hughes
/// It's politics - surely by definition it's always a Left versus Right thingy///
Oh and here was me thinking that mikey was trying to show his concerns over the prejudices shown by a certain Black person. //
It's getting personal again - we are trying not to go that way any more - aren't we?
/// It's politics - surely by definition it's always a Left versus Right thingy///
Oh and here was me thinking that mikey was trying to show his concerns over the prejudices shown by a certain Black person. //
It's getting personal again - we are trying not to go that way any more - aren't we?
AOG - "mikey4444
/// SP...you should know by now that, to the usual Suspects, there are only one type of Muslim. ///
How can you possible say that, we all know that there are Sunni Muslims, *** Muslims, Black Muslims, White Muslims, and those who have converted to Islam. "
I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image.
/// SP...you should know by now that, to the usual Suspects, there are only one type of Muslim. ///
How can you possible say that, we all know that there are Sunni Muslims, *** Muslims, Black Muslims, White Muslims, and those who have converted to Islam. "
I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image.
AOG - //andy-hughes
Just by addressing one's remarks towards or to a certain ABer is by its self "getting personal".
Should we all agree with each other in your quest for a perfect debating forum? //
I am merely trying to avoid the openings of the sort of exchanges that you and I batted across the ether for days on end - it's entirely your choice if you wish to join me in avoiding them too.
I am not 'questing' for anything - just trying to be helpful, nothing more than that.
Just by addressing one's remarks towards or to a certain ABer is by its self "getting personal".
Should we all agree with each other in your quest for a perfect debating forum? //
I am merely trying to avoid the openings of the sort of exchanges that you and I batted across the ether for days on end - it's entirely your choice if you wish to join me in avoiding them too.
I am not 'questing' for anything - just trying to be helpful, nothing more than that.
andy-hughes
/// I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image. ///
And don't you thunk that by the very barbarous acts that have been carried out throughout the world, all in the name of Islam, they have richly deserved your label (not mine)"Bogeyman Muslim?
/// I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image. ///
And don't you thunk that by the very barbarous acts that have been carried out throughout the world, all in the name of Islam, they have richly deserved your label (not mine)"Bogeyman Muslim?
AOG - //andy-hughes
/// I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image. ///
And don't you thunk that by the very barbarous acts that have been carried out throughout the world, all in the name of Islam, they have richly deserved your label (not mine)"Bogeyman Muslim?//
Not at all.
That is a simplistic view which I know from experience that your mind is unlikely to encompass.
If we are going to say that all Muslims are 'bogeymen', then we will have to adopt the same broad-brush approach to Christians - who have done entirely their fair share of unpleasant things, as history will confirm.
Just because Christians are taking a breather from rampaging across other countries and using military force to enforce a democratic system that the recipients don't understand and don't want doesn't mean that they can automatically assume the 'good guy' corner in perpetuity.
/// I think Mikey is referring to the all-encompassing 'bogeyman Muslim' that some Westerners have fixed in their minds as their default image. ///
And don't you thunk that by the very barbarous acts that have been carried out throughout the world, all in the name of Islam, they have richly deserved your label (not mine)"Bogeyman Muslim?//
Not at all.
That is a simplistic view which I know from experience that your mind is unlikely to encompass.
If we are going to say that all Muslims are 'bogeymen', then we will have to adopt the same broad-brush approach to Christians - who have done entirely their fair share of unpleasant things, as history will confirm.
Just because Christians are taking a breather from rampaging across other countries and using military force to enforce a democratic system that the recipients don't understand and don't want doesn't mean that they can automatically assume the 'good guy' corner in perpetuity.
AOG
The next time you complain about being attacked for your views on AB, I want you to think back to this thread.
On every post, you have ignored mikey4444's actual question, and used the thread to criticise him.
Every single post.
I know I've done the same on AB, but at least I have the manners to actually answer the question or state an opposing view.
All you have done today is proven that what you are wholly guilty of the charge that you complain so vociferously about.*
*For some reason, I am unable to end sentences without a preposition of.
(That last one was a joke).
The next time you complain about being attacked for your views on AB, I want you to think back to this thread.
On every post, you have ignored mikey4444's actual question, and used the thread to criticise him.
Every single post.
I know I've done the same on AB, but at least I have the manners to actually answer the question or state an opposing view.
All you have done today is proven that what you are wholly guilty of the charge that you complain so vociferously about.*
*For some reason, I am unable to end sentences without a preposition of.
(That last one was a joke).