As Bad As Fgm ?

[Canary42]

Baby's ears pierced.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/post/138477226104/katie-prices-sparks-internet-debate-after-getting

[woofgang]

a. I had my ears pierced and it hurt.
b. there is always the risk of infection.
c. no its not illegal but maybe it should be.
d. is there any good reason at all to pierce a baby’s ears?

[Retrochic]

237SJ Agreed -I don't like the idea of baby ear piercing as I would be frightened the child caught the ear and pulled out the stud. Its definitely a 'class' thing in the UK and especially on AB (tut tut over my dead body ad nauseum) . But to compare it to FGM or even tattoos is OTT

[Retrochic]

woofgang
a) really?
b) so you are saying mothers are incapable of washing and disinfecting their childs ears?
c) really ( good grief)
d) No - buts its not illegal and millions of parents worldwide do it

[NellieMay]

Definitely tacky. Babies do not need adornment. They are not dolls to dress up, and the piercings are only done for the sake of the parent.

[NellieMay]

But not as dreadful as fgm!

[pastafreak]

My mother had her ears pierced at birth,as did all her sisters. They were Italian,and its what Italians did then. I didn't have mine done til I was about 18...it was the hippy fashion to do so. My daughter asked to have hers done at 10. I don't remember it hurting...neither does she. I don't have any particular issues with what other do.

[joeluke]

This is just the latest episode of 'The Katie Price soap opera'

She uses her husbands infidelity/kids to keep herself in the public eye

Previous episode was allowing her young daughter (not sure how old- maybe 8 or 9?) to wear full make-up

The woman is a plastic d1ckhead

[pastafreak]

I should add that in the States...along with a large Italian population...there are many Hispanics and carribeans,who also traditionally pierce babies ears. So it's something that doesn't faze me.

[Mamyalynne]

I remember whilst very young my Grandmother mentioning an age old belief connecting eyesight and ear piercing (she wasn't advocating it mind you), never thought to research it before.

//From the European Middle Ages, a superstitious belief that piercing one ear improved long-distance vision led to the practice among sailors and explorers. Sailors also pierced their ears in the belief that their earrings could pay for a Christian burial if their bodies washed up on shore.//

[viv41]

joeluke at 21:08 spot on ........!

[andy-hughes]

viv41 - //joeluke at 21:08 spot on ........! //

I think joe is absolutely right - that Katie Price will take any and all publicity wherever it occurs.

But I also think that the OP has opened a wider debate about the morality of mutilating infants - and which ever way you slice it, that is what having a baby's ears pierced is.

[viv41]

I'm opposed to it and would never have it done to a child. And of course as others have said, fgm is FAR worse.

[Retrochic]

Andy -seriously do you describe ear piercing as a 'Mutilation'

" to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts"

Ears can heal over Andy - I had the top of my ear pierced years ago now there is not even a hole -i had two holes each earlobe at one point -now I have no holes in my ears they have healed up as I no longer wear earrings.

[andy-hughes]

Retrochic - //Andy -seriously do you describe ear piercing as a 'Mutilation'

" to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts" //

Yes I do.

The variance of English language allows usage of words outwith their dictionary definition in order to emphasise a point.

Check out the Daily Mail's adverb usage in almost all of its headlines - most of its revalations are 'searingly honest' 'heartbreakingly revealing' and so on ad nauseum - none of which would stand up to the dictionary definition of the terms used.

[ummmm]

I just can't see ear piercing as mutilation. It doesn't look nice on babies but it's not mutilation. It doesn't hurt.

[Retrochic]

Andy - I was referring to your comment

"But I also think that the OP has opened a wider debate about the morality of mutilating infants - and which ever way you slice it, that is what having a baby's ears pierced is"

not the Daily Mails take English Grammar

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - //It doesn't hurt. //

That doesn't make it right though, does it?

Apart from which, I seriously doubt your point - do you really believe that no baby, on having her ears pierced, does not make enough noise to be heard three streets away? I doubt it.

By the same token, putting a bone through her nose may not 'hurt' either, but that doesn't make it justifiable behaviour.

Punching holes in babies' ears in order for the parents to think they look 'cute' is not acceptable behaviour in my opinion.

[gness]

Not easy to do though....x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq02OvWTEh0

[andy-hughes]

Retrochic - //Andy - I was referring to your comment

"But I also think that the OP has opened a wider debate about the morality of mutilating infants - and which ever way you slice it, that is what having a baby's ears pierced is"

not the Daily Mails take English Grammar //

But my point is still valid.

The Mail uses its OTT adverbiage in order to underline the perceived impact of its stories - I am using a slightly more extreme description of what I perceive to be barbaric behaviour - for exactly the same reason.

[woofgang]

I don’t see how people can say “It doesn’t hurt” All they can say is “it didn’t hurt me” or "it appeared not to hurt when I saw it done to someone else” or “I know someone who had it done and they said it didn’t hurt”