Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pegida-uk-hundreds-attend-birmingham-central-mosque-opposition-tommy-robinsons-anti-islam-march-1542279

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, good to see you reverse your opinion. I urge you now to enhance your education further by listening to the man who speaks from about 5.25 in PiedPiper15's link above.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// The two are not mutually exclusive, as I am sure you know, and that was not what I said, as I am also sure you know. ///

No I do not know, because that is why I went to the trouble of copying and pasting exactly what you did say.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

Can you please keep to the OT just as you are always asking others to do.

There is no need for all your off thread posts just to try and constantly prove that you are right, when all around you know you are not.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, good to see you reverse your opinion. I urge you now to enhance your education further by listening to the man who speaks from about 5.25 in PiedPiper15's link above. //

I have listened to all the speakers, and to be honest, they pattern for public speaking when preaching to the converted, tends to follow the same pattern, in this case -

Abuse of women by gangs of Muslim men is wrong
Grooming children is wrong
Freedom of movement is a seriously flawed concept for a number of reasons - movement of Muslim criminals being only one of them
Angela Murkel has made a dreadful mistake with German immigration

and in the case of the Muslim gentleman - he has abandoned his religion because he feels it does not reflect him as a person.

So - what of these would any sane individual object to?

Personally - none of them.

But I can work all those things out for myself. I don't need Tommy Robinson getting a soaking and a sore throat to preach the obvious to me thank you.

I can work out the problems, I can see the problems, but unlike Mr Robinson, I would rather use the system of law to sort out the problems, than his mass rabble-rousing, with no concrete solution anywhere in view.

As for the Muslim gentleman, if I were a Catholic, I would not leave my faith because of Opus Dei - I would simply sidestep it and continue with my faith, and try and educate and inform people what is good about my faith - walking away and bragging about it solves nothing.

Does Mr Robinson really think that this is going to change anything?

Personally, I don't, and to reiterate, I strongly suspect his motives and his underlying agenda.

[andy-hughes]

"All around me?"

I don't think that is actually true!!!

[Jackdaw33]

For God's sake, a-h, give it a rest.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// it is the way he does it in order to whip racial hatred under the guise of patriotism. 'English Defence League'? It will be a cold day in hell before I need Robinson and Co's self-appointed crowd of racists to 'defend' me from anything! ///

/// racism and attention-seeking. ///

Since you seem to be a stickler for correctness, will you now cease from playing the 'Race' card at each and every occasion.

This thread is a criticism of the growth of Islam, and since Islam is not a race, can you please refrain from using that word? //

Actually, I thought the thread was about allowing a peaceful march without violent opposition - I thought you of all people would know that AOG.

[andy-hughes]

Jackdaw33 - //For God's sake, a-h, give it a rest. //

Er .... no, I don't think I will, thanks.

[ummmm]

Why should Andy give it a rest? He's answering people directing posts at him.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, // I can work out the problems//

That clearly isn't true. Just a few posts ago you were claiming that the attackers in Cologne and other cities were opportunists.

[-Talbot-]

andy-hughes
I can work out the problems, I can see the problems, but unlike Mr Robinson, I would rather use the system of law to sort out the problems,


The law (of many countries) not only ignored sexual assaults, they tried to cover them up. How long does one wait for the law to do the right thing?

[naomi24]

//unlike Mr Robinson, I would rather use the system of law to sort out the problems,//

I don't know what Mr Robinson is currently doing that is against the law.

[anotheoldgit]

Since we do not have politicians who will openly admit the problems in this country or a media who is prepared to voice the people's concerns, then for the moment we will have to depend on certain brave individuals to speak out and be heard.

[retrocop]

Mr aog
Unfortunately we have a few who would prioritise their own virtue signals than agree to listen to what is going on in the real world.

[sp1814]

AOG

Seriously?

Didn't you know about the links between EDL and the BNP, who have a rich history in anti-Semitism?

Here's a lead off:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2013/08/tommy-robinson-distributes-anti-semitic-propaganda-on-twitter/

But if you want some more evidence, go to www.google.com and search for 'bnp EDL antisemitic'

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

Since we do not have politicians who will openly admit the problems in this country or a media who is prepared to voice the people's concerns.

Have you heard of The Daily Mail, The Daily Express and the Telegraph?

Please help me avoid being sarcastic by not posting things like that, because both you and I know that it doesn't bear scrutiny.