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Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?
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"Tommy Robinson is kinda like a Doreen Lawrence figure. There are a few on AB who are anti-Doreen for what she stands for, and perhaps the same is true of Mr Robinson. The message is clouded by the baggage?
I don't agree, really. I think with Robinson, his emotions cloud his analysis of what the problem is. He isn't Nick Griffin, that's for sure. What a pity in many ways that we all seem so obsessed by him
I don't agree, really. I think with Robinson, his emotions cloud his analysis of what the problem is. He isn't Nick Griffin, that's for sure. What a pity in many ways that we all seem so obsessed by him
SP, There’s nothing nebulous about what he’s saying. The truth is that anyone else could be saying the same thing and you would disparage them equally because it's not what you want to hear. Tommy Robinson has more known baggage for you to latch on to than the multitude of perceived saints among us and so you choose you the easy way out by ignoring the vital issue he’s addressing in favour of personal criticism.
ag, thank you very much. SP insults his own intelligence.
ag, thank you very much. SP insults his own intelligence.
agchristie - //Haven't we all done or said something we regret in life? C'mon sp! Is it not possible to admit such weaknesses, move on and prove people wrong? //
Indeed - but we don't all set ourselves up as moral guardians who are there to 'save' the British people.
If you are going to get on your hind legs and spout about being the only one who sees what is going on, and you are going to be the knight in shining armour, then you'd better be pretty sure you haven't got a past that is going to bite you when the press go looking.
Indeed - but we don't all set ourselves up as moral guardians who are there to 'save' the British people.
If you are going to get on your hind legs and spout about being the only one who sees what is going on, and you are going to be the knight in shining armour, then you'd better be pretty sure you haven't got a past that is going to bite you when the press go looking.
Mortgage Fraud. That does'nt come under any Race Act. Quite a few MPs have been found out fraudently claiming expenses but not all are liars.
Rather a trend for Asians et al to arrange fraudulent marriages,driving tests,and bogus car/whiplash insurance frauds. We could go on to the Nigerian scam frauds.
Robinson did time for fraud. Hardly pertinent to what he has been accused of in Birmingham which was not illegal.
Rather a trend for Asians et al to arrange fraudulent marriages,driving tests,and bogus car/whiplash insurance frauds. We could go on to the Nigerian scam frauds.
Robinson did time for fraud. Hardly pertinent to what he has been accused of in Birmingham which was not illegal.
Naomi - //The truth is that anyone else could be saying the same thing and you would disparage them equally because it's not what you want to hear. //
From my position - I don't have any issue with some of the points Mr Robinson is making - nor do I disagree that radical Islam is a major problem.
My point is that I don't require Mr Robinson and his self-appointed bunch of rent-a-racists to 'defend' Britain, we have an army and a police force for that - both of which are accountable, Mr Robinson is not.
From my position - I don't have any issue with some of the points Mr Robinson is making - nor do I disagree that radical Islam is a major problem.
My point is that I don't require Mr Robinson and his self-appointed bunch of rent-a-racists to 'defend' Britain, we have an army and a police force for that - both of which are accountable, Mr Robinson is not.
Andy > If you are going to get on your hind legs and spout about being the only one who sees what is going on, and you are going to be the knight in shining armour, then you'd better be pretty sure you haven't got a past that is going to bite you when the press go looking.
Are you addressing me or TR?
Are you addressing me or TR?
retrocop - //Quite a few MPs have been found out fraudently claiming expenses but not all are liars.
Rather a trend for Asians et al to arrange fraudulent marriages,driving tests,and bogus car/whiplash insurance frauds. We could go on to the Nigerian scam frauds. //
No argument - but then, MP's are subject to sanction for their misdeeds, and so far, I am unaware of any of them standing on soapboxes in city centres spouting obvious facts, and trying to appear as some sort of 'saviour of the nation' who is the only one who knows what is going on.
Rather a trend for Asians et al to arrange fraudulent marriages,driving tests,and bogus car/whiplash insurance frauds. We could go on to the Nigerian scam frauds. //
No argument - but then, MP's are subject to sanction for their misdeeds, and so far, I am unaware of any of them standing on soapboxes in city centres spouting obvious facts, and trying to appear as some sort of 'saviour of the nation' who is the only one who knows what is going on.
AG - //Andy > If you are going to get on your hind legs and spout about being the only one who sees what is going on, and you are going to be the knight in shining armour, then you'd better be pretty sure you haven't got a past that is going to bite you when the press go looking.
Are you addressing me or TR? //
Since I am not aware that Mr Robinson is on AB - unless he is here under yet another false name (!) - my point is obviously addressed to you.
Are you addressing me or TR? //
Since I am not aware that Mr Robinson is on AB - unless he is here under yet another false name (!) - my point is obviously addressed to you.
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I didn't need Bertram Russel,Tony Benn, Michael Foot and the rest of the left wing trots telling me how they wanted to defend Britain by CND marches and Greenham Common,Aldermaston et al.
We have a Military who do that and are accountable!
They were still allowed to march and cause major disruption,civil disobedience and spout their vile communist propaganda.
There was no major disruption or civil disobedience in Birmingham. Some of you seem almost disappointed.
We have a Military who do that and are accountable!
They were still allowed to march and cause major disruption,civil disobedience and spout their vile communist propaganda.
There was no major disruption or civil disobedience in Birmingham. Some of you seem almost disappointed.
> you might be tempted to question the even-handedness of a website like that.
More even-handed than the media though who would have loved to report on the non-existant trouble and ignored the key message...
You see this is where I start to wonder: pressure-group websites' words taken as gospel, the "mainstream media" mistrusted, and a persecution complex. I am not necessarily doubting the word of the good folk whose website is named in honour of the supposed boiling point of urine but it seems odd to lap up whatever unboiled residue persists from that quarter while casually branding every other media source as "the enemy".
It doesn't do "the cause" any favours with some of us :-)
More even-handed than the media though who would have loved to report on the non-existant trouble and ignored the key message...
You see this is where I start to wonder: pressure-group websites' words taken as gospel, the "mainstream media" mistrusted, and a persecution complex. I am not necessarily doubting the word of the good folk whose website is named in honour of the supposed boiling point of urine but it seems odd to lap up whatever unboiled residue persists from that quarter while casually branding every other media source as "the enemy".
It doesn't do "the cause" any favours with some of us :-)
retrocop - //I didn't need Bertram Russel,Tony Benn, Michael Foot and the rest of the left wing trots telling me how they wanted to defend Britain by CND marches and Greenham Common,Aldermaston et al.
We have a Military who do that and are accountable!
They were still allowed to march and cause major disruption,civil disobedience and spout their vile communist propaganda.
There was no major disruption or civil disobedience in Birmingham. Some of you seem almost disappointed. //
Perhaps a poor example?
Two out of the three gentlemen you quote were elected Members of Parlianement with a mandate to represent their constituents.
You may not have needed them to represent you, but their constituents did, which is why they voted for them.
Mr Robinson is not elected to his 'position' by anyone except himself.
As the saying goes, self-praise is no recommendation.
We have a Military who do that and are accountable!
They were still allowed to march and cause major disruption,civil disobedience and spout their vile communist propaganda.
There was no major disruption or civil disobedience in Birmingham. Some of you seem almost disappointed. //
Perhaps a poor example?
Two out of the three gentlemen you quote were elected Members of Parlianement with a mandate to represent their constituents.
You may not have needed them to represent you, but their constituents did, which is why they voted for them.
Mr Robinson is not elected to his 'position' by anyone except himself.
As the saying goes, self-praise is no recommendation.
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